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From: Sebastien Ferre <Sebastien.Ferre@irisa.fr>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] ReasonML concrete syntax
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 09:22:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <131064f1-4d53-5fbc-8aa7-0f6210dcb7bd@irisa.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cd9b5f42-ea4f-1bc2-1cb7-f886fa837064@gerd-stolpmann.de>


The Scala notation is an interesting alternative, IMO.

They have two notations, f(x,y) and f(x)(y), the latter being the
curryfied version allowing partial application.

They also have a notation for partial application
of the non-curryfied form,  f(x,_) and f(_,y), with
the advantage that not only the last argument can missing.

The notation f(x,y) can be used for two different types of f
- (x:Int, y:Int) => Int  (no OCaml equivalent)
- (p:(Int,Int)) => Int   (OCaml: int * int -> int)
   In that case, f(x,y) is an abbreviation for f((x,y))

---
Sébastien

On 12/11/2017 07:30 PM, Gerd Stolpmann wrote:
> On 11.12.17 17:10, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
>> On 2017-12-11 15:40, Gerd Stolpmann wrote:
>>
>>> although, with currified functions this is only an illusion
>> As they say, "this".  The alternative syntax will lead to people never
>> learning about partial application.
>>
>> Does your own language curry multiple arguments by default like Ocaml
>> does?  If yes, then (IMO) your choice is a mistake, in spite of the
>> (good) arguments you give for it.
> 
> Yes, it does. I consider it only as a notation, and it's a compromise
> because
> 
> f x1 x2 x3 <=> ((f x1) x2) x3
> 
> doesn't work anymore as an explanation of how multiple args are
> (semantically) treated. It would read
> 
> f(x1,x2,x3) <=>
>    let f1 = f(x1) in
>    let f2 = f1(x2) in
>    f2(x3)
> 
> which works but is ugly and hides more than it explains. On the
> implementation side there is no difference.
> 
> But I can live with that. This language isn't intended to be used in CS
> courses, and the engineers diving deeper into it will still be happy
> that partial application works out of the box.
> 
> Gerd
>>
>> I would be more tolerant about such syntax in a SML-like language where
>> multiple arguments are modelled with tuples in most cases.
>>
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-13  8:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-10 18:12 Robert Muller
2017-12-11  0:09 ` Yawar Amin
2017-12-11  5:50   ` Viet Le
2017-12-11  6:45     ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-12-11  6:53       ` Sven SAULEAU
2017-12-11  6:50     ` Sven SAULEAU
2017-12-11  6:54       ` Evgeny Khramtsov
2017-12-11  7:22         ` =?gb18030?B?Qm9i?=
2017-12-11  7:16           ` Evgeny Khramtsov
2017-12-17 15:02         ` Paolo Donadeo
2017-12-17 16:01           ` Guillaume Huysmans
2017-12-17 16:55             ` Paolo Donadeo
2017-12-17 20:13               ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-12-17 20:49                 ` Robert Muller
2017-12-18  1:34                   ` Yawar Amin
2017-12-18 16:36                     ` Evgeny Khramtsov
2017-12-18 17:00                       ` Jesper Louis Andersen
2017-12-18 17:27                         ` Gary Trakhman
2017-12-18 17:53                         ` Evgeny Khramtsov
2017-12-18  2:14                   ` Yawar Amin
2017-12-11 15:51       ` Yawar Amin
2017-12-11 16:07         ` Sven SAULEAU
2017-12-11 17:11         ` David Brown
2017-12-12  3:49         ` Louis Roché
2017-12-12  4:18           ` Yawar Amin
2017-12-12  5:52           ` Oliver Bandel
2017-12-11 14:40 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2017-12-11 16:10   ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-12-11 16:47     ` Viet Le
2017-12-11 17:10       ` Yotam Barnoy
2017-12-11 18:56         ` Robert Muller
2017-12-11 19:23           ` Yawar Amin
2017-12-11 21:10         ` Marshall
2017-12-11 17:29       ` Yawar Amin
2017-12-11 17:59       ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-12-11 18:30     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2017-12-13  8:22       ` Sebastien Ferre [this message]
2017-12-13  9:26         ` Evgeny Khramtsov
2017-12-13 10:37           ` David Allsopp
2017-12-13 16:38             ` Marshall
2017-12-13 16:44               ` Yawar Amin
2017-12-13 17:20                 ` David Allsopp
2017-12-13 17:51                   ` Yawar Amin
2017-12-13 17:39         ` Hendrik Boom
2017-12-13 17:55           ` Robert Muller
2017-12-13 18:19             ` Viet Le
2017-12-13 19:29             ` Yawar Amin
2017-12-13  8:55 ` Nicolas Boulay

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