From: Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de>
To: Jean Krivine <jean.krivine@gmail.com>
Cc: Nicolas Bros <nicolas.bros@gmail.com>,
"caml-list@inria.fr" <caml-list@inria.fr>,
Adam Richardson <simpleshot@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] 'OCaml For the Masses' on Slashdot
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:25:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1318674315.16477.396.camel@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEQoNCmRVX=8P9Z0NhH729KeXiOc6Mt6H8_Ou4wC-_0t1pZDYA@mail.gmail.com>
This leads to nowhere. If we look at natural languages (as approximation
to "thinking"), neither paradigm can be well expressed. Sure, we can
describe a sequence of steps easily ("do this, then do that, then do the
third thing"), but it quickly ends when you try to describe loops. There
are also ways of expressing functional thinking in languages ("the
faster I run the quicker I reach the destination" - time as function of
speed).
The issue is probably more that procedural thinking is trained in
programing classes, while functional thinking is not. Neither of the
paradigms is really close to humans as such.
Gerd
Am Freitag, den 14.10.2011, 13:50 +0200 schrieb Jean Krivine:
> In the comments:
> "Procedural programming is easier for humans to understand: most of us
> do no not think in a way that maps easily to functional programming. "
>
> That a very functional thought to me :)
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Nicolas Bros <nicolas.bros@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> If a great OCaml guru/teacher wrote a great book, I'm
> sure it would have great sales on Amazon (I'd buy
> it :)
>
> You may want to read this book :
> http://caml.inria.fr/pub/docs/oreilly-book/html/index.html
>
>
> It is the english translation of the french book
> "Développement d'applications avec Objective Caml":
> http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/Livres/ora/DA-OCAML/index.html
> http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/2841771210
>
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Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-04 22:02 Alain Frisch
2011-10-05 2:16 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2011-10-05 5:00 ` Adam Richardson
2011-10-06 17:05 ` Nicolas Bros
2011-10-14 11:50 ` Jean Krivine
2011-10-14 12:22 ` rixed
2011-10-14 12:30 ` oliver
2011-10-14 12:36 ` oliver
2011-10-15 10:25 ` Gerd Stolpmann [this message]
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