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From: Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de>
To: Mark Shinwell <mshinwell@janestreet.com>
Cc: Yotam Barnoy <yotambarnoy@gmail.com>,
	Ocaml Mailing List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Concurrent/parallel programming
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 14:38:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1389188287.3822.10.camel@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM3Ki76RVOFKCQ1mXDRn4dQX7c2cmXr45k+OiUe9x7cMrjuUhw@mail.gmail.com>

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Am Mittwoch, den 08.01.2014, 11:55 +0000 schrieb Mark Shinwell:
> On 8 January 2014 11:36, Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de> wrote:
> > There is a workaround in place - so far the OS supports it: thanks to
> > Xavier the symbols caml_modify and caml_initialize are declared as weak
> > in 4.01, allowing them to be redefined in executables. Netmulticore
> > redefines these symbols with their pre-4.01 functions.
> >
> > This isn't optimal yet, because the old write barriers are a bit slower,
> > and because this introduces a very low-level dependency on the current
> > version of Ocaml. Nevertheless, it works for now. (Ideas for a better
> > solution are highly welcome.)
> 
> Jeremie Dimino and myself have a somewhat embryonic proposal
> that should permit most of the write barrier to be
> circumvented for out-of-heap access, and also avoid the page
> table test.  We'll send mail to the list in due course once
> we've had time to think about this further.

I'm very curious to hear about that.

So far I have only the idea to override the := operator selectively in
all modules that want to modify out-of-heap values:

let ( := ) = Netmcore_heap.assign h

where Netmcore_heap.assign is a C function that tests whether the
destination address is in the out-of-heap address space of h. If so, the
assignment can be done directly. If not, it just falls back to a normal
caml_modify.

This solution isn't nice, though, because it can be very problematic to
have the extra indirection of ref. So, what I'm searching for is a way
to turn any record mutation into an external C function call (or at
least to parametrize the write barrier somehow).

Gerd

> Mark
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-08 13:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-07 19:54 Yotam Barnoy
2014-01-07 20:12 ` Yaron Minsky
2014-01-07 20:21   ` Yaron Minsky
2014-01-07 20:35 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-01-08  2:35   ` Yotam Barnoy
2014-01-08  3:33     ` Francois Berenger
2014-01-08  4:01       ` Yotam Barnoy
2014-01-08  8:37     ` Gabriel Scherer
2014-01-08 11:36     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-01-08 11:55       ` Mark Shinwell
2014-01-08 13:38         ` Gerd Stolpmann [this message]
2014-01-07 21:51 ` Markus Mottl
     [not found] ` <20140107200328.GA14297@voyager>
2014-01-08  1:12   ` Francois Berenger
2014-01-08 20:29 ` Roberto Di Cosmo
2014-01-08 22:13   ` Yotam Barnoy
2014-01-08 22:38     ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2014-01-08 22:57       ` [Caml-list] [ocaml-infra] " Ashish Agarwal
2014-01-09  2:52         ` Yotam Barnoy

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