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From: Brian Rogoff <bpr@artisan.com>
To: Diego-Olivier.FERNANDEZ-PONS@cicrp.jussieu.fr
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Doubly-linked list
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:43:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15706.31385.247539.595347@granite.artisan.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.A32.3.95.1020814094019.46622C-100000@ibm1.cicrp.jussieu.fr>

Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons writes:
> Brian Rogoff a écrit
> > I'm looking forward to seeing it. I get the impression that Edison uses 
> > (multi-parameter) type classes so it isn't clear that it will translate 
                          ^-constructor
> > well. Oh yeah, I may as well add my biannual plea for some form of
> > overloading in OCaml, which is somewhere in the top 3 of my wishlist. 
> 
> I had to make many changes to Edison's structure including :
> 
> - flattening the Haskell class hierarchy
>   Edison has Coll, XColl, OrdColl, Set, XSet, OrdSet ... you can see a
>   few diagrammas (in fact lattices) in Okasaki's overviews of Edison.
>   They have been all reduced into 4 types (Sequences, Collections,
>   Sets and Maps) in various flavors (polymorphic, functor, in place)
> 
> - transforming some lazy data structures to strict (and providing
>   functors and various flavors of streams for those who want amortized
>   data structures via lazy evaluation)
> 
> - eliminating data structures that could not be translated to Caml,
>   which includes some multi-parameter classes (that was not the most
>   difficult part in fact) 

Yes, you can always map to modules, but I think overloading (or type
classes, if you want to distinguish from Ada and C++) are more convenient
for the user, but I suppose this is a well known disagreement that will
only be resolved by the proponents of the respective positions choosing
different languages. 

> and non-uniform recursion (most of the last
>   3 chapters of Okasaki's book, Markus Mottle had the same problem
>   with his translation to Caml)

With OCaml 3.05 and above, you'll be able to use polymorphic methods to 
get non-uniform recursion. This issue has come up a lot on the list 
(see the archives) over the years and several proposals were made for 
adding this capability to the language. I don't know if adding this 
feature is a priority for the developers; it isn't clear that the data
structures in Okasaki's book constitute a strong enough argument for 
adding it. 

You may as well swipe the doubly linked list from the Cousineau/Mauny book
too. The library will be more useful if you're very careful about making
the interfaces very consistent, so that changing a data structure doesn't
cause much source code change. 
> 
> There won't be much new if you already use Markus Mottle port :
> - weight balanced trees (Stephen Adams 1992)
> - cartesian trees (Jean Vuillemin 1980)
> - catenable (functional) lists (Chris Okasaki 1998)
> - chromatic trees (Sabine Hanke 1997)
> - priority search queues (Ralph Hinze 2001)
> - various flavors of streams
> - some mutable lists
> - I have also completed Pottier's simply linked circular lists
> 
> 
>         Diego Olivier

-- Brian
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-14 15:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-13  8:00 Oleg
2002-08-13  8:54 ` Markus Mottl
2002-08-13 15:52   ` Oleg
2002-08-13 11:00 ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2002-08-13 14:30   ` Oleg
2002-08-13 15:11     ` Anton Moscal
2002-08-13 16:12       ` Oleg
2002-08-13 17:16         ` Max Kirillov
2002-08-14  0:49           ` Max Kirillov
2002-08-13 18:23         ` Anton E. Moscal
2002-08-13 16:16   ` Brian Rogoff
2002-08-14  8:13     ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2002-08-14 15:43       ` Brian Rogoff [this message]
2002-08-19 10:38         ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2002-08-19 15:58           ` Polymorphic recursion 9Was Re: [Caml-list] Doubly-linked list) Brian Rogoff
2002-08-21  8:04             ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2002-08-21 15:48               ` Brian Rogoff
2002-08-23  8:14                 ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2002-08-23 21:57               ` John Max Skaller
2002-08-27 13:00                 ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2002-08-28 14:50                   ` John Max Skaller
2002-08-28 17:27                     ` [Caml-list] FELIX (was: Polymorphic recursion) Oleg
2002-08-19 23:17 ` [Caml-list] Doubly-linked list james woodyatt

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