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From: chet@watson.ibm.com
To: William Chesters <williamc@dai.ed.ac.uk>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr, Pierre.Weis@inria.fr
Subject: Re: Proposal for study: Add a categorical Initial type to ocaml
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:36:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <199910102236.SAA17970@bismarck.chet.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:05:26 BST. <24984.199910102105@buckie>


I read the referenced note

[http://caml.inria.fr/caml-list/0967.html]

and while I agree with most of what's said there, I think that putting
the "option" attribute onto a field would reduce its value.

Specifically, it is a highly common (albeit problematic) idiom in C,
C++, Java, and other languages, to program with a pointer to X, which
is perhaps null, and is only checked late, at the point when it is
destructured somehow.

That sort of idiom would not be possible to capture -- when we fetch
the value of an "option" field, we are implicitly asking for the field
to be checked for non-null-ness.

In other words, I think that "nullability" is a useful property of
types in general, and not merely of types of fields.

--chet--




  reply	other threads:[~1999-10-11 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-10-06 13:25 Stdlib regularity Ohad Rodeh
1999-10-06 16:18 ` Markus Mottl
1999-10-08 14:06   ` Matías Giovannini
1999-10-10 20:09     ` Pierre Weis
1999-10-10 20:12       ` Matías Giovannini
1999-10-08 14:10   ` skaller
1999-10-08 19:21     ` Markus Mottl
1999-10-09 21:14     ` Dave Mason
1999-10-06 18:50 ` John Prevost
1999-10-07  7:33 ` skaller
1999-10-07  9:18 ` Francisco Valverde Albacete
1999-10-08 14:56   ` skaller
1999-10-09 22:26     ` Francois Rouaix
1999-10-10  5:38       ` skaller
1999-10-10 20:44         ` William Chesters
1999-10-10 21:43           ` Hongwei Xi
1999-10-11  0:36           ` skaller
1999-10-12  7:20             ` David Mentr{'e}
1999-10-08 16:38   ` Proposal for study: Add a categorical Initial type to ocaml skaller
1999-10-09 22:43     ` John Prevost
1999-10-10  3:18       ` chet
1999-10-10  6:14       ` skaller
1999-10-10 21:05         ` William Chesters
1999-10-10 22:36           ` chet [this message]
1999-10-10 22:38           ` chet
1999-10-11 19:30             ` John Prevost
1999-10-12  8:34             ` Option types and O'Labl merger Jacques Garrigue
1999-10-12 14:38               ` William Chesters
1999-10-13  5:35                 ` Frank A. Christoph
1999-10-13  8:48                   ` Jacques Garrigue
1999-10-11  0:51           ` Proposal for study: Add a categorical Initial type to ocaml skaller
1999-10-11 12:40         ` John Prevost
1999-10-12 19:20           ` skaller
1999-10-12 11:33         ` Jean-Francois Monin
1999-10-10 16:10       ` chet
1999-10-10 18:52 Vyskocil Vladimir
1999-10-12 15:33 Damien Doligez
1999-10-12 15:44 Damien Doligez
1999-10-13 16:42 Manuel Fahndrich
1999-10-14 22:43 ` skaller
1999-10-14 23:16 Manuel Fahndrich
1999-10-17  9:18 ` skaller
1999-10-18 16:48 Manuel Fahndrich

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