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From: Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
To: Alain Frisch <alain@frisch.fr>
Cc: OCaML List Mailing <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Request for feedback: A problem with injectivity and GADTs
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:18:39 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1D6C7417-8F98-4979-B6AF-E8C10CC21F71@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <517F7AA7.1020108@frisch.fr>

On 2013/04/30, at 17:02, Alain Frisch <alain@frisch.fr> wrote:

> On 04/30/2013 09:56 AM, Jacques Garrigue wrote:
>> On 2013/04/30, at 15:59, Alain Frisch <alain@frisch.fr> wrote:
>> 
>>> It's reassuring to see that the conservative solution (not assuming injectivity of user defined abstract types) does not seem too bad for now, even if not very satisfying.
>>> 
>>> I'm only concerned with:
>>> 
>>>> 3) The problem I describe in my first mail. I.e. when defining a type,
>>>>   if you use type variables appearing in constrained type parameters,
>>>>   you need the type constructors leading to the type variables to be
>>>>   injective. This is PR#5985, and it is only fixed in branches/non-vanishing.
>>> 
>>> Do you think that fixing this unsoundness (without injectivity annotations) would lead to reject existing programs?
>> 
>> Potentially yes.
>> But I don't know how it is in practice for code existing now.
>> Hence my question.
> 
> Apart from GADTs, does your patch address the unsoundness with type constraints?

Sure, this is exactly the same mechanism.

The only other thing it does is a slight strengthening of variance checking.

Consider the type
   type 'a t = T                   (* 'a bi-variant and injective *)
   type 'a u = 'a t -> 'a t    (* 'a t occurs both at positive and negative positions *)

Originally, the parameter of u would have been bi-variant (or unrestricted)
since it is bi-variant in the definition of t.
However it is now invariant.
The reason is that you can only change it by subtyping in t, and u doesn't allow subtyping.
This is a reasonable restriction, and it is necessary to allow some GADT
definitions where we use concrete types as indices.

Jacques Garrigue

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-30  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-28  0:02 Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-28  2:45 ` Markus Mottl
2013-04-28 10:28   ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-28  5:54 ` Jacques Le Normand
2013-04-29  3:45 ` Ivan Gotovchits
2013-04-29  4:03   ` Ivan Gotovchits
2013-04-29  5:17 ` Jacques Le Normand
2013-04-29  7:58   ` Alain Frisch
2013-04-29 10:52     ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-29 11:23       ` Alain Frisch
2013-04-29 16:37         ` Nathan Mishra Linger
2013-04-29 23:53           ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-30  5:45       ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-05-04  6:46         ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-05-04  7:09           ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-05-04 12:28             ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-30  6:59       ` Alain Frisch
2013-04-30  7:56         ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-30  8:02           ` Alain Frisch
2013-04-30  8:18             ` Jacques Garrigue [this message]
2013-04-30  9:11               ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-04-30  9:55                 ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-30 10:12                   ` Leo White
2013-04-30 11:30                     ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-04-30 13:06                       ` Leo White
2013-04-29  7:59   ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-01 14:47 ` Alain Frisch
2013-07-01 23:20   ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-07-03 16:08     ` Alain Frisch
2013-07-03 16:13       ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-04  6:07         ` [Caml-list] Request for feedback: A problem with injectivity oleg
2013-07-04  7:35           ` Alain Frisch
2013-07-05 10:30             ` oleg
2013-07-05 12:02               ` Alain Frisch
2013-07-04  1:00       ` [Caml-list] Request for feedback: A problem with injectivity and GADTs Jacques Garrigue
2013-07-04  8:14         ` Alain Frisch
2013-07-04  8:52           ` Jacques Garrigue

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