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From: Pascal Brisset <brisset@recherche.enac.fr>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Cc: Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp>, Pierre.Weis@inria.fr
Subject: Re: Syntax for label, NEW PROPOSAL
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:51:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200003211651.RAA05461@sepia.recherche.enac.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20000316115540L.garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp>

Jacques Garrigue writes:
> From: Pierre Weis <Pierre.Weis@inria.fr>
> >    * undesired labels: in many cases I don't want to have labels just
> >      because I don't want to remember their names. (E.g., I very often
> >      mispell the label acc since I've always used accu to name an
> >      accumulator; furthermore, when I do not mispell this label, I feel
> >      acc:accu extremely verbose). Also because labels are verbose at
> >      application.
> 
> Isn't there a classic mode for that?

 Something I do not understand: how could I use Labltk, for which I want
to be modern, and List.fold_right, for which I do not want labels, in the
same file ?
 By the way, the label "acc" (or even "accu") does not mean anything for me
in fold_right: the iterator associates one function to each
constructor of the type so I would prefer

val fold_right: cons:(hd:'a -> tl:'b -> 'b) -> nil:'b -> list:'a list -> 'b

[...]

> It would cost nothing to add 4 more unlabelled functions to the List
> module.

 Please add a smiley when you write such a sentence !

[...]

> Or do you think that the problem is deeper, and that labels are
> breaking the foundations of the language ?

 Please ! The debate is about presence of labels in the standard library,
not in the language.
 Today, it is possible to teach Ocaml without speaking about objects,
modules (functors are not so common in libraries), streams, etc. If labels
are in the standard library you will have to explain one more (nice
and not so simple) feature before being able to use one
simple list iterator ...

Amicalement

--Pascal



  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-03-22 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-03-14 16:53 Syntax for label Don Syme
2000-03-14 18:05 ` Pierre Weis
2000-03-15  3:15 ` Syntax for label, NEW PROPOSAL Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-15  6:58   ` Christophe Raffalli
2000-03-15 21:54     ` Julian Assange
2000-03-15 11:56   ` Wolfram Kahl
2000-03-15 13:58   ` Pierre Weis
2000-03-15 15:26     ` Sven LUTHER
2000-03-17  7:44       ` Pierre Weis
2000-03-15 17:04     ` John Prevost
2000-03-17 10:11       ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-15 17:06     ` Markus Mottl
2000-03-15 19:11     ` Remi VANICAT
2000-03-17  8:30       ` Pierre Weis
2000-03-17 14:05         ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-17 16:08           ` Pierre Weis
2000-03-18 10:32           ` Syntax for label, NEW SOLUTION Christophe Raffalli
2000-03-19  2:29             ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-20 18:25               ` Christophe Raffalli
2000-03-22  8:37                 ` Claudio Sacerdoti Coen
2000-03-21 23:29               ` John Max Skaller
2000-03-29  8:42               ` Semantic of label: The best (only ?) solution to merge both mode Christophe Raffalli
2000-03-29  9:53                 ` Christophe Raffalli
2000-03-30  9:49                   ` John Max Skaller
2000-03-30  9:39                 ` John Max Skaller
2000-03-31  4:34                   ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-04-01  1:53                     ` John Max Skaller
2000-04-02 19:24                     ` Christophe Raffalli
2000-04-04  5:50                       ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-04-03  7:57                     ` backward compatibility Christophe Raffalli
2000-03-15 21:30     ` Syntax for label, NEW PROPOSAL John Max Skaller
2000-03-16  2:55     ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-17 15:13       ` Pierre Weis
2000-03-17 17:33         ` Wolfram Kahl
2000-03-18 11:59         ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-21 16:51       ` Pascal Brisset [this message]
2000-03-23 11:14         ` Nicolas barnier
2000-03-24  9:54           ` labels & ocaml 3 & co David Mentré
2000-03-24 12:19             ` David Mentré
2000-03-21 22:22       ` Unsigned integers? John Max Skaller
2000-03-22 16:22         ` Sven LUTHER
2000-03-23  2:08           ` Max Skaller
2000-03-23  7:50             ` Sven LUTHER
2000-03-24  2:50             ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-24 15:59               ` Xavier Leroy
2000-03-25  4:03               ` John Max Skaller
2000-03-24 14:50             ` Xavier Leroy
2000-03-22 17:05         ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2000-03-22 19:10           ` Markus Mottl
2000-03-23  2:41           ` Max Skaller
2000-03-22 19:47         ` Xavier Leroy
2000-03-23 12:55           ` John Max Skaller
2000-03-16  8:50     ` Syntax for label, NEW PROPOSAL Pascal Brisset
2000-03-17 11:15       ` Sven LUTHER
2000-03-18  0:04     ` Syntax for label, ANOTHER " Steven Thomson
2000-03-15 20:39   ` Syntax for label (and more) Xavier Leroy
2000-03-17 10:03     ` Christian RINDERKNECHT
2000-03-17 17:19       ` Christophe Raffalli
2000-03-21  1:29     ` Markus Mottl
2000-03-15 20:40 Syntax for label, NEW PROPOSAL Don Syme
2000-03-17  9:48 ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-17 17:34   ` Dave Mason
2000-03-18  0:26     ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-23 13:07       ` Sven LUTHER
2000-03-17 17:03 Don Syme
2000-03-17 19:24 ` John Prevost
2000-03-17 21:33 Damien Doligez
2000-03-18 21:07 ` Frank Atanassow
2000-03-18 22:40 ` John Prevost

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