From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from weis@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id OAA09412 for caml-red; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:26:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA03955 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 19:58:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from miss.wu-wien.ac.at (miss.wu-wien.ac.at [137.208.107.17]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f03IwdT09164 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 19:58:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (from mottl@localhost) by miss.wu-wien.ac.at (8.9.0/8.9.0) id TAA04495; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 19:58:32 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 19:58:32 +0100 From: Markus Mottl To: "Joseph R. Kiniry" Cc: OCAML , Mattias Waldau Subject: Re: JIT-compilation for OCaml? Message-ID: <20010103195832.A30893@miss.wu-wien.ac.at> References: <20010103191903.B29666@miss.wu-wien.ac.at> <64320000.978547080@kind.kindsoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <64320000.978547080@kind.kindsoftware.com>; from kiniry@acm.org on Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 10:38:00 -0800 Sender: weis@pauillac.inria.fr On Wed, 03 Jan 2001, Joseph R. Kiniry wrote: > > Why didn't you compare to OCaml or other FPLs (e.g. Haskell, Clean, etc.)? > > Business reasons? > > Entirely. I would have been happy to work in OCaml, but trying to convince > investors (who are reluctant enough to go with something like Objective-C > or CLOS) that ML is a viable option is a hard-sell. Couple that with the > whole training, hiring, maintenence, and Open Source issues and you hit a > dead end immediately. It's sad that it is still so difficult to attract investors to modern (as opposed to "new") technologies. OTOH, it is understandable that they are reluctant if they know that you are likely to have problems hiring or training staff (-> higher costs = less profit). How is the situation in France? Isn't (O)Caml used in most universities / hautes ecoles for teaching? There should be much more "programmer supply" over there (but probably not enough "venture capital supply" as compared to the US...). I do not really follow your concerns about Open Source: OCaml is pretty "free" as are most other FPLs. Or do you mean something else? - Markus Mottl -- Markus Mottl, mottl@miss.wu-wien.ac.at, http://miss.wu-wien.ac.at/~mottl