From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id MAA28094; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:09:07 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28088 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:09:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr (dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.6.1]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f32A95D08515 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:09:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lambda.u-strasbg.fr (lambda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.90.63]) by dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02042; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:08:24 +0200 Received: from luther by lambda.u-strasbg.fr with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14k1H7-0000Wy-00; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 12:09:29 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:09:29 +0200 To: Bruce Hoult Cc: Sven LUTHER , Mattias Waldau , caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Using HTML as a standard GUI for Ocaml Message-ID: <20010402120929.A2033@lambda.u-strasbg.fr> References: <20010401221111.A635@lambda.u-strasbg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from bruce@hoult.org on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 08:35:14AM +1200 From: Sven LUTHER Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 08:35:14AM +1200, Bruce Hoult wrote: > At 10:11 PM +0200 4/1/01, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > What about using HTML-interfaces > >> instead of standard GUIs like Tcl and GTK? > > > >Well, i think this may be a good idea (sun is doing this) if you need to run > >your code remotely and for system configuration and administration. > > > >But, ... > > > >Most web browser are huge beast, running slowly and ressource hungry. Also i > >think you can do less things with html than you can do with modern toolkits. > > > >Also there is the question of bandwith. > > I think cvsweb is a good example. > > I'm sitting here in New Zealand on a 56k modem, doing development > work on Gwydion Dylan, with the cvs server being in Germany. If I > want to see, say, the change log for the CREDITS file then I have two > choices. I can type [1]... > > cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@berlin.ccc.de:/home/cvsroot log src/CREDITS > > ... which takes just over five seconds to fetch the results, or I can > enter into my browser the URL... > > http://www.ccc.de/cgi-bin/cvsweb/gd/src/CREDITS > > ...which takes about two seconds, is prettier, and is more functional > in that I am then only a click (and two more seconds) away from > seeing the source of any version I want, doing diffs between > versions, getting source annotated with who last changed each line > etc. > > It's just not obvious that HTML is slower than the alternatives. Sure, but guess what you would have used if you wanted to update your Xfree86 source tree to the latest cvs HEAD version ? Again, like i said, there are a few uses where using html for guis make sense, but in the generic case, using gtk+ or some other toolkit makes more sense. Friendly, Sven Luther ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr. Archives: http://caml.inria.fr