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From: Xavier Leroy <Xavier.Leroy@inria.fr>
To: Gerd Stolpmann <gerd@gerd-stolpmann.de>
Cc: Chris Hecker <checker@d6.com>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: javacaml
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:27:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010406172752.C1347@pauillac.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01040500354406.00489@ice>; from gerd@gerd-stolpmann.de on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 11:10:28PM +0200

> Don't misunderstand me: mlj is excellent work if you take it
> academically, but the authors argue that it is also usable for
> practical purposes, and this is the reason why I am amuzed. The
> better conclusion from the facts in the mlj paper is that it is not
> practicable to compile ML to Java bytecode.

I agree with your conclusions, however you're perhaps slightly too
harsh with MLj: for developing applet-sized programs, for instance,
the limitations of MLj (whole-program compilation, size limitations)
are acceptable.

> - Why isn't there an O'Caml plugin for Mozilla? In many environments, you do
>   not need a sandbox, e.g. within intranets, and code signing suffices.

François Rouaix hacked together a Caml plugin for Netscape a few years
ago.  It sort of worked (under Unix and with Caml actually running in
a different process and communicating over a pipe), but he sort of
lost interest in it.  I have doubts on the cleanliness and stability
of the Netscape plugin API :-)  Also, the same technical tricks might
not work under Windows...

At any rate, I believe Web applets are a totally uninteresting
application area.  Most Web designers seem happy with JavaScript
hacks, and in many years of intense Web surfing, I came across an
interesting Java applet only once (Certicom's excellent tutorial on
elliptic curve cryptography).

> - Why isn't there a version of the bytecode interpreter that can dynamically
>   load libraries? (I know that there is a patch, but nothing
>   official.)       

Because I'm lazy.  And it's a somehow more subtle change than you think.  
(The patch you mention misses a number of issues.)

- Xavier Leroy
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-04-06 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <4.3.2.7.2.20010403142051.032a0a70@shell16.ba.best.com>
2001-04-04 21:10   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2001-04-06  9:51     ` Sven LUTHER
2001-04-06 15:27     ` Xavier Leroy [this message]
2001-04-06 19:11       ` Chris Hecker
2001-04-06 21:10       ` Gerd Stolpmann

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