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From: Hugo Herbelin <Hugo.Herbelin@inria.fr>
To: williamc@paneris.org (William Chesters)
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml Speed for Block Convolutions
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 03:50:24 +0200 (MET DST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200106070150.DAA20850@pauillac.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15134.30731.137189.386800@beertje.william.bogus> from William Chesters at "Jun 6, 101 08:35:55 pm"


William Chesters wrote:
> Hugo Herbelin writes:
>  > Assume more generally that you can modify any local variable as in the
>  > (standard) following example:
>  > 
>  > let fact (mutable n) =
>  >   let mutable r = 1 in
>  >   while n > 0 do
>  >      r <- r * n;
>  >      n <- n - 1
>  >   done;
>  >   r
> 
> This doesn't actually make life much easier for the compiler.  On
> 32-bit machines [see other thread!], `r' must be a reference (in the
> C++ sense) to a heap object---64-bit float, plus header.  In general
> it is not safe to overwrite the float value in the heap, if it's
> possible that other variables have been assigned to it. (unless floats
> are assigned by value not by reference, but in that case you get heap
> allocation at the time of assignment ...).  

  To be boxed or not is not a property of the language but of the
implementation. This means that the semantics for such a "x <- e"
for boxed values (may be floats) can only be the same as for unboxed
values, that is "assignment by value".

  This means that "x <- e", compared to "x.contents <- e", wouldn't
avoid the heap allocation inherent to the boxing of floats, but would
just avoid the initial allocation of an extra ref block and the
subsequent indirections to set/get the value (assuming the cell is not
already cached in a register what perhaps the compiler is able to do).

                                                  Hugo


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-06-07  1:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-04 13:25 David McClain
2001-06-04 19:51 ` William Chesters
2001-06-04 20:05   ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-04 20:15   ` David McClain
2001-06-04 22:34     ` Markus Mottl
2001-06-06 20:13       ` William Chesters
2001-06-06 22:29         ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-07  7:42           ` William Chesters
2001-06-05  7:22     ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-06  6:27       ` David McClain
2001-06-04 22:14   ` Tom _
2001-06-04 22:57     ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-05  2:52     ` Brian Rogoff
2001-06-05 15:02       ` Stefan Monnier
2001-06-05 10:48   ` Tom _
2001-06-06  2:03     ` Hugo Herbelin
2001-06-06  4:04       ` Charles Martin
2001-06-06 18:25         ` William Chesters
2001-06-06 18:35       ` William Chesters
2001-06-06 18:40         ` Patrick M Doane
2001-06-07  1:50         ` Hugo Herbelin [this message]
2001-06-07 18:20         ` Tom _
2001-06-07 23:49           ` [Caml-list] let mutable (was OCaml Speed for Block Convolutions) Jacques Garrigue
2001-06-08  0:20             ` [Caml-list] Currying in Ocaml Mark Wotton
2001-06-08 10:13               ` Anton Moscal
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.21.0106081015000.1167-100000@hons.cs.usyd.edu.a u>
2001-06-08  0:38               ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-08  8:25             ` [Caml-list] let mutable (was OCaml Speed for Block Convolutions) Ohad Rodeh
2001-06-08 15:21               ` Brian Rogoff
2001-06-08 17:30             ` Pierre Weis
2001-06-08 18:36               ` Stefan Monnier
2001-06-08 19:07                 ` Pierre Weis
2001-06-08 19:30               ` Michel Quercia
2001-06-11  6:42                 ` [Caml-list] should "a.(i)" be a reference? (was "let mutable") Judicaël Courant
2001-06-11 13:42                 ` [Caml-list] let mutable (was OCaml Speed for Block Convolutions) Pierre Weis
2001-06-12  3:21                   ` Jacques Garrigue
2001-06-12  7:43                     ` Pierre Weis
2001-06-12  8:31                       ` Jacques Garrigue
2001-06-12 13:15                         ` Georges Brun-Cottan
2001-06-12 21:54                       ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-15  9:55               ` Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-06-01 18:38 [Caml-list] OCaml Speed for Block Convolutions David McClain
2001-06-01 22:51 ` Tom _
2001-06-02  0:10   ` Stefan Monnier
2001-06-04 10:12     ` Jacques Garrigue

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