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From: Tom _ <tom7ca@yahoo.com>
To: William Chesters <williamc@paneris.org>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml Speed for Block Convolutions
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:20:07 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010607182007.33358.qmail@web11902.mail.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15134.30731.137189.386800@beertje.william.bogus>

--- William Chesters <williamc@paneris.org> wrote:
> Hugo Herbelin writes:
>  > Assume more generally that you can modify any
> local variable as in the
>  > (standard) following example:
>  > 
>  > let fact (mutable n) =
>  >   let mutable r = 1 in
>  >   while n > 0 do
>  >      r <- r * n;
>  >      n <- n - 1
>  >   done;
>  >   r
> 
> This doesn't actually make life much easier for the
> compiler.  On 32-bit machines [see other thread!], 
> `r' must be a reference (in the 
> C++ sense) to a heap object---64-bit float, plus
> header.

I don't see why. The compiler has full type 
information.  All it may have to do is box up
a return value.

In any case, whether or not the compiler in the
current implementation can or cannot do good type
inference and may or may not be forced to box
a floating point number, the two constructs mean
something different to the programmer, and they
behave differently.  In particular "mutable x"
can never be passed around as a reference, while
"x = ref ..." can.  If not anything else, that
prevents the programmer from inadvertently inhibiting
a compiler optimization by passing around a reference.

Besides, the syntax is probably quite a bit more 
natural to imperative programmers anyway.

Tom.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-06-07 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-04 13:25 David McClain
2001-06-04 19:51 ` William Chesters
2001-06-04 20:05   ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-04 20:15   ` David McClain
2001-06-04 22:34     ` Markus Mottl
2001-06-06 20:13       ` William Chesters
2001-06-06 22:29         ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-07  7:42           ` William Chesters
2001-06-05  7:22     ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-06  6:27       ` David McClain
2001-06-04 22:14   ` Tom _
2001-06-04 22:57     ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-05  2:52     ` Brian Rogoff
2001-06-05 15:02       ` Stefan Monnier
2001-06-05 10:48   ` Tom _
2001-06-06  2:03     ` Hugo Herbelin
2001-06-06  4:04       ` Charles Martin
2001-06-06 18:25         ` William Chesters
2001-06-06 18:35       ` William Chesters
2001-06-06 18:40         ` Patrick M Doane
2001-06-07  1:50         ` Hugo Herbelin
2001-06-07 18:20         ` Tom _ [this message]
2001-06-07 23:49           ` [Caml-list] let mutable (was OCaml Speed for Block Convolutions) Jacques Garrigue
2001-06-08  0:20             ` [Caml-list] Currying in Ocaml Mark Wotton
2001-06-08 10:13               ` Anton Moscal
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.21.0106081015000.1167-100000@hons.cs.usyd.edu.a u>
2001-06-08  0:38               ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-08  8:25             ` [Caml-list] let mutable (was OCaml Speed for Block Convolutions) Ohad Rodeh
2001-06-08 15:21               ` Brian Rogoff
2001-06-08 17:30             ` Pierre Weis
2001-06-08 18:36               ` Stefan Monnier
2001-06-08 19:07                 ` Pierre Weis
2001-06-08 19:30               ` Michel Quercia
2001-06-11  6:42                 ` [Caml-list] should "a.(i)" be a reference? (was "let mutable") Judicaël Courant
2001-06-11 13:42                 ` [Caml-list] let mutable (was OCaml Speed for Block Convolutions) Pierre Weis
2001-06-12  3:21                   ` Jacques Garrigue
2001-06-12  7:43                     ` Pierre Weis
2001-06-12  8:31                       ` Jacques Garrigue
2001-06-12 13:15                         ` Georges Brun-Cottan
2001-06-12 21:54                       ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-15  9:55               ` Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-06-01 18:38 [Caml-list] OCaml Speed for Block Convolutions David McClain
2001-06-01 22:51 ` Tom _
2001-06-02  0:10   ` Stefan Monnier
2001-06-04 10:12     ` Jacques Garrigue

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