From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id TAA13948; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:21:28 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA13910 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:21:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from quincy.inria.fr (quincy.inria.fr [128.93.8.52]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MHLM922568; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:21:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from mauny@localhost) by quincy.inria.fr (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f9MHPX013315; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:25:33 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:25:33 +0200 From: Michel Mauny To: Markus Mottl Cc: Brian Rogoff , caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Whither the Caml Consortium? Message-ID: <20011022192533.A12039@quincy.inria.fr> Reply-To: Michel.Mauny@inria.fr References: <20011020012347.A29847@quincy.inria.fr> <20011019192854.N9735-100000@shell5.ba.best.com> <20011020172932.A5967@fichte.ai.univie.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011020172932.A5967@fichte.ai.univie.ac.at>; from markus@oefai.at on Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 05:29:32PM +0200 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk Markus, Markus Mottl wrote/écrivait (Oct 20 2001, 05:29PM +0200): > While three small companies have stepped in I wouldn't say that Dassault-Aviation is such a small company (~ 9000 employees, as far as I know). > So the realistic assumption is that the current three members > haven't joined the Consortium out of altruism and love for OCaml, > but merely out of very specific selfish reasons, which may not > necessarily be for the benefit of the whole OCaml-community. I am > not accusing anybody here, it's just one possible, rational > explanation... I don't see the point in speculating on why current members joined the Consortium. Instead, let them explain why they joined, in case they want to do so. And it's no problem if they don't want to explain. Furthermore, I'm not sure that such assumptions about the current members and their "very specific selfish reasons which may not necessarily be for the benefit of the whole OCaml-community" in this mailing list, are of great help for attracting new members. I really believe that we can have a useful and successful consortium even with a small number of companies at the beginning. Of course, 3 are not enough, but I think we can attract a few more, and start something that will be useful for the whole community. Not only the developments and promotion of OCaml are of general interest for the community, but the existence of the group itself could be a rather strong argument when a decision of ``choosing OCaml or not'' has to be made. Especially when the manager is the only one remaining to be convinced. I should probably at that point remind the list with the URL of the membership request :-) http://caml.inria.fr/consortium/documents/form.shtml and invite all of you to convince their management to join the Consortium. We'd like to plan a first formal meeting for either mid-december or january. For non-European users, I understand that the membership process (payment, in particular) can be a bit painful (contract signed by both INRIA and the Member, then invoice sent by INRIA, and then payment by the Member). I can try to do my best to alleviate it, but I'm afraid the French rules applying to state-funded institutes such as ours are rather unflexible, unfortunately. Best regards, -- Michel ------------------- Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr