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From: Francois Pottier <francois.pottier@inria.fr>
To: Ohad Rodeh <ORODEH@il.ibm.com>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] mutability analysis too strict?
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:13:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011210091331.B2025@pauillac.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF80DB041C.5AFDD811-ONC2256B1D.00560066@telaviv.ibm.com>; from ORODEH@il.ibm.com on Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 05:43:41PM +0200


On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 05:43:41PM +0200, Ohad Rodeh wrote:
> 
>       let h = Hashtbl.create 10;;
>       h : ('_a, '_b) Hashtbl.t
> 
> The objects and keys in the table are infered to be mutable. However,
> in my case, they are immutable and I have to coerce them using Obj.magic
> from '_b to 'b.

You are slightly wrong here: the analysis infers the table itself (not the
keys or objects in it) to be mutable, which it indeed is. If the table was
given a polymorphic type, you would be able to store objects of a certain
type and to retrieve them at another type (by taking different instances of
'b), which would be unsound.

Furthermore, I'm surprised to hear that using Obj.magic helps; indeed, any
application of Obj.magic is itself deemed `dangerous' by O'Caml, leading
to the following behavior:

  # let h = Hashtbl.create 10;;  
  val h : ('_a, '_b) Hashtbl.t = <abstr>
  # let h = (Obj.magic h : ('a, 'b) Hashtbl.t);;
  val h : ('_a, '_b) Hashtbl.t = <abstr>

That is, Obj.magic doesn't help at all in this case.

Perhaps you could tell us what you are trying to achieve? Any polymorphic,
mutable structure is unsound and rightly rejected. A monomorphic, mutable
structure that contains polymorphic data is sound, but cannot be expressed
in ML's type system where universal quantification must be prenex.

-- 
François Pottier
Francois.Pottier@inria.fr
http://pauillac.inria.fr/~fpottier/
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-12-10  8:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-09 15:43 Ohad Rodeh
2001-12-10  8:13 ` Francois Pottier [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-10 10:13 Ohad Rodeh
2001-12-10 10:30 ` Basile STARYNKEVITCH
2001-12-10 10:50 ` Francois Pottier
2001-12-10 11:21 ` Mark Seaborn
2001-12-10  9:12 Ohad Rodeh
2001-12-10  9:28 ` Remi VANICAT
2001-12-09 12:14 [Caml-list] Mutability " Ohad Rodeh

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