From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id NAA05278; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 13:52:40 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03931 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 13:52:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from fichte.ai.univie.ac.at (fichte.ai.univie.ac.at [131.130.174.156]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g5KBqcH20857; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 13:52:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from markus@localhost) by fichte.ai.univie.ac.at (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id NAA09316; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 13:52:37 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 13:52:37 +0200 From: Markus Mottl To: Xavier Leroy Cc: Alessandro Baretta , Ocaml Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Unix.file_descr -> int ??? Message-ID: <20020620115236.GD6822@fichte.ai.univie.ac.at> Mail-Followup-To: Xavier Leroy , Alessandro Baretta , Ocaml References: <3D0F37E6.6000307@baretta.com> <000101c21705$d9f23640$0501a8c0@lexifi01> <3D0FB722.6000009@baretta.com> <20020620132333.B2180@pauillac.inria.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020620132333.B2180@pauillac.inria.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: Austrian Research Institute for Artificial Intelligence Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Xavier Leroy wrote: > I'm not disturbed in the least by the fact that many computer > professionals couldn't care less about what we do. (And conversely :-) > What I am concerned about is the well-meaning suggestions that we > should move towards "their" technologies in the vague hope that they > will pay more attention then. They won't. I don't think that the problem is about moving towards "their" technologies but moving OCaml and its tools towards "their" problem domain. It's definitely not the job of INRIA to do this, though some help might make this task easier for the commercial programmers among us (not me). This usually boils down to adhering to or defining somewhat accepted standards. E.g., I suppose that many programmers would be happy about locale support or libraries in the distribution that handle some high-level standard internet protocols, etc. It might be a good idea to define some set of rules that allows people external to INRIA to write libraries in such a way that they could be accepted in the standard distribution. Or even better, to define and implement standard packaging schemes that make seamless integration of 3rd party libraries easy. Then the community could much more effectively take over the burden of providing OCaml-libraries and tools for commercial use. Regards, Markus Mottl -- Markus Mottl markus@oefai.at Austrian Research Institute for Artificial Intelligence http://www.oefai.at/~markus ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners