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From: eijiro_sumii@anet.ne.jp
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: Games (Re: [Caml-list] Caml productivity.)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:52:05 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020730135205T.sumii@yl.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <001901c237a7$9e685920$890bfea9@mimbi>

[Excuse me for citing a personal message without prior permission.
Also, excuse me for repeating all the same points as in my previous
messages...]

> I think you'll find that the emphasis on symbolic programming in ICFP was
> typical of ICFP rather than the supposed application domain.

I very much expected this response.:-) Indeed ICFP must have put
_more_ emphasis, I suppose, but it is of course just one example.
Also in some other CG programs involving Bezier curves, hidden
line/surface removal, radiosity, polygons, meta balls, etc. etc. that
I wrote, most non-trivial parts were symbolic ones.  The numeric parts
were "mathematics" rather than "programming" - once I solved some
equations, the rest of the work was routine: it was just writing down

  let x = (-. b +. sqrt(b *. b -. 4. *. a *. c)) /. (2. *. a)

or things like that.

Chatting with game/CG professionals around me _strengthened_ this
impression: the symbolic parts seem even more non-trivial in realistic
applications.  For instance, just imagine implementing various kinds
of graphics editors or scripting languages for animation description!

Unfortunately, all of these are mere personal experience and
impression: just I believe that CG programs in the real world are more
symbolic than classroom exercises or laboratory experiments, for the
reasons that I wrote above and in my previous messages.  If somebody
doesn't believe this, I have no more means (and time) to convince
him/her - this is just "FYI".

--
Eijiro Sumii (http://www.yl.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~sumii/)
Research Associate, Department of Computer Science, University of Tokyo
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-07-30 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-15 21:22 [Caml-list] Caml productivity Pal-Kristian Engstad
2002-07-20 15:16 ` William Chesters
2002-07-22 18:22   ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2002-07-22 18:41     ` achrist
2002-07-22 19:23       ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2002-07-22 21:13         ` [Caml-list] CamlIDL and function pointers Michael Tucker
2002-07-23  8:39           ` Xavier Leroy
2002-07-23 13:11             ` Dmitry Bely
2002-07-24 15:00             ` Michael Tucker
2002-07-25  9:36               ` Xavier Leroy
2002-07-22 21:26     ` Games (Re: [Caml-list] Caml productivity.) Oleg
2002-07-23  2:56       ` Issac Trotts
2002-07-23 11:03         ` eijiro_sumii
2002-07-23 16:17           ` Charles Martin
2002-07-29  3:36           ` Andrei de A. Formiga
2002-07-29  6:32             ` Florian Hars
2002-07-29 10:23             ` eijiro_sumii
     [not found]               ` <001901c237a7$9e685920$890bfea9@mimbi>
2002-07-30  4:52                 ` eijiro_sumii [this message]
2002-07-30 18:13                   ` Jonathan Coupe
2002-07-30  6:16                     ` eijiro_sumii
2002-08-01 15:39                     ` John Max Skaller
2002-08-01 15:59                       ` Markus Mottl
2002-08-01 16:28                       ` Jonathan Coupe
     [not found]                         ` <86vg6ta9o6.fsf@laurelin.dementia.org>
2002-08-02 12:50                           ` Jonathan Coupe
2002-08-02 14:51                         ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-25  3:19       ` Chris Hecker
2002-07-28 13:45         ` Jonathan Coupe
2002-07-29  0:57           ` Michael Vanier
2002-07-22 22:00     ` [Caml-list] Caml productivity Alexander V.Voinov
2002-07-20 15:25 ` Oleg
2002-07-22  6:41 ` Tom
2002-07-22 10:46 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2002-07-22 17:46   ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2002-07-24  3:20     ` Travis Bemann
2002-07-24  9:45       ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2002-07-26 21:42         ` Chris Hecker
2002-07-27  4:41           ` Issac Trotts
2002-07-27  5:49             ` Chris Hecker
2002-07-27 14:49               ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-27  9:06           ` Oleg
2002-07-27 18:18             ` Chris Hecker
2002-07-29  8:13         ` Nicolas Cannasse
2002-07-30  4:46           ` Travis Bemann
2002-07-24  8:02     ` Nicolas Cannasse
2002-07-24  8:25       ` Jérôme Marant
2002-07-24 10:00       ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2002-07-27  9:06         ` Oleg

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