[Caml-list] ocaml-doc non-free?

[Caml-list] ocaml-doc non-free?

[Yang Shouxun]

Hi,

can anybody enlighten me why ocaml-doc is non-free in Debian distribution?

Interestingly, vrms does not list it as a non-free package.

Best!

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Re: [Caml-list] ocaml-doc non-free?

[Jérôme Marant]

Yang Shouxun <yangsx@fltrp.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> can anybody enlighten me why ocaml-doc is non-free in Debian distribution?

Because the Latex source of the documentation is not available.

> Interestingly, vrms does not list it as a non-free package.

If it is not free, it has a buggy section ('doc' instead of
'non-free/doc').

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[Caml-list] Re: ocaml-doc non-free?

[Michaël Grünewald]

Yang Shouxun <yangsx@fltrp.com> writes:

> Hi,
> 
> can anybody enlighten me why ocaml-doc is non-free in Debian distribution?
> 
> Interestingly, vrms does not list it as a non-free package.

[...]

Are you aware of
<http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-pkgcopyright> 
(Section 2.1) that say what does `free' mean in the Debian world ? (*Debian
Free Software Guidelines*, aka *DFSG*) ?
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Re: [Caml-list] ocaml-doc non-free?

[Sven LUTHER]

On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 08:56:17PM +0800, Yang Shouxun wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> can anybody enlighten me why ocaml-doc is non-free in Debian distribution?

Because it fails many points of the DFSG, in particular, you have no
right to modify it. That is how the authors want it, and so we can only
distribute it in non-free, which is okay (altough i guess other
documentation in debian also have this same problem and shouldbe moved
out of main into non-free, i have not checked though).

Also, anyway, we don't have the original source of the libs, only the
produced stuff, so this is another point making it non-free.

There are other stuff that are in the ocaml-doc package, or could be,
that are non-free also, like the examples and other such.

> Interestingly, vrms does not list it as a non-free package.

What is vrms ?

Anyway, much discution went into the move of ocaml-doc from main to
non-free, you can look at the archives of
debian-ocaml-maint@lists.debian.org to get an idea of some of them.

Friendly,

Sven Luther

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Re: [Caml-list] ocaml-doc non-free?

[Jérôme Marant]

Sven LUTHER <luther@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> writes:

> What is vrms ?

  Virtual Richard Matthew Stallman. It is a program that lists all
  the non-free packages in your system.

> Anyway, much discution went into the move of ocaml-doc from main to
> non-free, you can look at the archives of
> debian-ocaml-maint@lists.debian.org to get an idea of some of them.

  It seems that the section of ocaml-doc is buggy: it should be
  non-free/doc instead of doc.

-=-=-=-=-=-=

  chinon:~$ dpkg -s ocaml-doc
Package: ocaml-doc
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: doc
Installed-Size: 9212
Maintainer: Vanicat Rémi <vanicat@labri.fr>
Version: 3.06-1
Suggests: ocaml
Description: Documentation for Objective Caml and Camlp4
 This package contains documentation for Objective Caml
 in html, info, dvi, pdf, ps and plain text format as well as
 documentation and a tutorial for Camlp4 in html, dvi and ps format.
 
-=-=-=-=-=-=

  There may be an override somewhere.

  Cheers,

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Re: [Caml-list] ocaml-doc non-free?

[Stefano Zacchiroli]

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On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 10:54:45AM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote:
> Package: ocaml-doc
> Status: install ok installed
> Priority: optional
> Section: doc

This is a local your problem, ocaml-doc is currently listed as non-free
(section doc/non-free) in all debian boxes of mine and even in the
packages search engine (see
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/doc/ocaml-doc.html).

Even "vrms" on my machines list it as a non-free package.

Perhaps you have installed an old version? (IIRC sometimes ago ocaml-doc
was created from the ocaml package and was in "doc" section ..., but I'm
not sure).

Cheers.

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