From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id UAA07638; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 20:38:23 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07557 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 20:38:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dewberry.cc.columbia.edu (dewberry.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.68]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g82IcLD29995 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 20:38:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from there (tw304h3.cpmc.columbia.edu [156.111.84.180]) by dewberry.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA02856; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 14:38:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200209021838.OAA02856@dewberry.cc.columbia.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Oleg To: John Max Skaller Subject: Re: [Caml-list] objective caml and industry Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 14:38:37 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: The Trade References: <3D70293E.9040806@ozemail.com.au> In-Reply-To: <3D70293E.9040806@ozemail.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Friday 30 August 2002 10:26 pm, John Max Skaller wrote: > The coming English translation of the new O'Reilly Ocaml > book is the most significant step forward here since > Bagley's Shootout showed Ocaml is the top performing > language after C. While Bagley's Shootout was good PR because of its Slashdot exposure, as I mentioned recently [1], Bagley confuses doubly-linked lists and deques, and then goes on to benchmark C++ doubly-linked list against O'Caml pre-allocated array. I don't want to say anything about scientific integrity, since I think INRIA simply overlooked the poor quality and extreme lopsidedness of the Shootout (They reference it on O'Caml's front page) Regards, Oleg [1] http://caml.inria.fr/archives/200208/msg00332.html The Shootout page I referenced changed a bit since Aug 19, 2002, but, still, it was the misleading results that were publicized. ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners