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From: Daniel de Rauglaudre <daniel.de_rauglaudre@inria.fr>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Threats on future of Camlp4
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 22:50:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021006225017.G20005@verdot.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200210062028.g96KShi14815@sarg.ryerson.ca>; from dmason@sarg.ryerson.ca on Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 04:28:43PM -0400

Hi,

On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 04:28:43PM -0400, Dave Mason wrote:

> I don't know who decided that camlp4 was the way to do that, but
> somebody did, and so I hope that at least that much of camlp4 comes as
> part of the ocaml distribution.

I did. Actually, the streams are just syntactic sugar, and their place
is in a preprocessor. In the very first version of OCaml, there were
no streams. I had added them, because there were not Camlp4 at this
time.

The problem of the streams inside OCaml is that the generated code
is very inefficient. To be more efficient, one has to optimize the
code (the generated source code), and it is very easy to do with
Camlp4 (thanks to the quotations) and very hard in OCaml (no
quotation and, moreover, a syntax tree too complicated).

> It may meet your (Daniel's) personal wishes that camlp4 be separated
> from ocaml, but I think that for the rest of us, it is better that it
> be shipped with ocaml.

For me it is better also. But I cannot work under a system whose
director considers my work as a "waste of time". Sorry. Or explain
him to stop telling that!

-- 
Daniel de RAUGLAUDRE
daniel.de_rauglaudre@inria.fr
http://cristal.inria.fr/~ddr/
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-06 20:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-06 18:55 Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 19:23 ` Chris Hecker
2002-10-06 19:52   ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 21:01   ` brogoff
2002-10-06 21:09     ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 19:29 ` Oleg
2002-10-06 20:01   ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 20:24     ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-10-06 20:24       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
     [not found]         ` <200210062143.g96Lhix15834@orchestra.cs.caltech.edu>
2002-10-07  2:47           ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 20:28     ` Dave Mason
2002-10-06 20:50       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre [this message]
2002-10-06 20:45     ` Oleg
2002-10-06 21:03       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 21:46         ` Florian Douetteau
2002-10-07  2:56           ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 23:54     ` Markus Mottl
2002-10-07  9:06       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-11 11:34       ` Kontra, Gergely
2002-10-11 12:56         ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-10-11 13:15         ` [Caml-list] Future " Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-12 21:45           ` Oleg
2002-10-13  9:02             ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-11 16:36         ` [Caml-list] Syntax brogoff
2002-10-07  7:21 ` [Caml-list] Threats on future of Camlp4 Sven LUTHER
2002-10-07  8:52   ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-07 11:25     ` Sven LUTHER
2002-10-07 11:30       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-07 11:55         ` Sven LUTHER
2002-10-08  7:57     ` Alessandro Baretta
     [not found]       ` <nhalm59cf0s.fsf@malabar.mitre.org>
2002-10-08 14:05         ` Alessandro Baretta

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