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From: Daniel de Rauglaudre <daniel.de_rauglaudre@inria.fr>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Threats on future of Camlp4
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 23:03:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021006230340.H20005@verdot.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200210062045.QAA15753@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>; from oleg_inconnu@myrealbox.com on Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 04:45:22PM -0400

Hi,

On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 04:45:22PM -0400, Oleg wrote:

> I'm still not sure I understand (BTW I did not know Camlp4 was being 
> integrated into O'Caml itself) 

Yes: it was integrated in version 3.04, last year (by me). And now,
because of this conflict, I claim that Camlp4 return to its previous
state: separately developped. But the direction refuses.

> You are saying that "[integrating Camlp4 into O'Caml] was a good
> compromise" [...]

No: "separating" is a good compromise, not "integrating".

> Pardon my ignorance, but is the offer to work on Camlp4 as part of
> O'Caml some sort of demotion for you at INRIA, or is the whole
> conflict merely about the location of Camlp4 in the CVS tree?

When people cannot get on together, the solution is to separate
them, in order that they can go on working.

I have been feeling better work in a separate version of Camlp4, and I
have had more ideas in this liberty; in that position, I feel better
in front of those who say that it is a "waste of time". I don't give a
damm of what they say and I use my energy developping, debugging and
improving it.

The problem, the serious problem, is that the direction refuses that.
Because of you, users, of course, and I understand that. But try to
explain that to my imagination: sorry, inside a constraint to work
inside a system who considers my work as a waste of time, I am blocked,
I cannot have ideas. Research is a creative action, I am not a robot.
I am an human being and I cannot work in any conditions.

-- 
Daniel de RAUGLAUDRE
daniel.de_rauglaudre@inria.fr
http://cristal.inria.fr/~ddr/
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-06 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-06 18:55 Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 19:23 ` Chris Hecker
2002-10-06 19:52   ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 21:01   ` brogoff
2002-10-06 21:09     ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 19:29 ` Oleg
2002-10-06 20:01   ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 20:24     ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-10-06 20:24       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
     [not found]         ` <200210062143.g96Lhix15834@orchestra.cs.caltech.edu>
2002-10-07  2:47           ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 20:28     ` Dave Mason
2002-10-06 20:50       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 20:45     ` Oleg
2002-10-06 21:03       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre [this message]
2002-10-06 21:46         ` Florian Douetteau
2002-10-07  2:56           ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 23:54     ` Markus Mottl
2002-10-07  9:06       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-11 11:34       ` Kontra, Gergely
2002-10-11 12:56         ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-10-11 13:15         ` [Caml-list] Future " Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-12 21:45           ` Oleg
2002-10-13  9:02             ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-11 16:36         ` [Caml-list] Syntax brogoff
2002-10-07  7:21 ` [Caml-list] Threats on future of Camlp4 Sven LUTHER
2002-10-07  8:52   ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-07 11:25     ` Sven LUTHER
2002-10-07 11:30       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-07 11:55         ` Sven LUTHER
2002-10-08  7:57     ` Alessandro Baretta
     [not found]       ` <nhalm59cf0s.fsf@malabar.mitre.org>
2002-10-08 14:05         ` Alessandro Baretta

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