From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id XAA26556; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 23:03:41 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA26399 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 23:03:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from verdot.inria.fr (verdot.inria.fr [128.93.11.7]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g96L3e527096 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 23:03:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from ddr@localhost) by verdot.inria.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA20321 for caml-list@inria.fr; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 23:03:40 +0200 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 23:03:40 +0200 From: Daniel de Rauglaudre To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Threats on future of Camlp4 Message-ID: <20021006230340.H20005@verdot.inria.fr> References: <20021006205517.B19829@verdot.inria.fr> <200210061929.PAA01123@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <20021006220127.B20005@verdot.inria.fr> <200210062045.QAA15753@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200210062045.QAA15753@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>; from oleg_inconnu@myrealbox.com on Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 04:45:22PM -0400 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk Hi, On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 04:45:22PM -0400, Oleg wrote: > I'm still not sure I understand (BTW I did not know Camlp4 was being > integrated into O'Caml itself) Yes: it was integrated in version 3.04, last year (by me). And now, because of this conflict, I claim that Camlp4 return to its previous state: separately developped. But the direction refuses. > You are saying that "[integrating Camlp4 into O'Caml] was a good > compromise" [...] No: "separating" is a good compromise, not "integrating". > Pardon my ignorance, but is the offer to work on Camlp4 as part of > O'Caml some sort of demotion for you at INRIA, or is the whole > conflict merely about the location of Camlp4 in the CVS tree? When people cannot get on together, the solution is to separate them, in order that they can go on working. I have been feeling better work in a separate version of Camlp4, and I have had more ideas in this liberty; in that position, I feel better in front of those who say that it is a "waste of time". I don't give a damm of what they say and I use my energy developping, debugging and improving it. The problem, the serious problem, is that the direction refuses that. Because of you, users, of course, and I understand that. But try to explain that to my imagination: sorry, inside a constraint to work inside a system who considers my work as a waste of time, I am blocked, I cannot have ideas. Research is a creative action, I am not a robot. I am an human being and I cannot work in any conditions. -- Daniel de RAUGLAUDRE daniel.de_rauglaudre@inria.fr http://cristal.inria.fr/~ddr/ ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners