From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id NAA14442; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:46:33 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14410 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:46:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mel-rto2.wanadoo.fr (smtp-out-2.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.254]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g97BkWD25116; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:46:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mel-rta9.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.69) by mel-rto2.wanadoo.fr (6.5.007) id 3D89D999009D08F1; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:46:31 +0200 Received: from iliana (80.14.69.228) by mel-rta9.wanadoo.fr (6.5.007) id 3D80120400EB51CA; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:46:31 +0200 Received: from luther by iliana with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 17yWUR-0004yt-00; Mon, 07 Oct 2002 13:55:59 +0200 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:55:58 +0200 To: Daniel de Rauglaudre Cc: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Threats on future of Camlp4 Message-ID: <20021007115558.GA19124@iliana> References: <20021006205517.B19829@verdot.inria.fr> <20021007072153.GA1326@iliana> <20021007105238.B25685@verdot.inria.fr> <20021007112559.GA18698@iliana> <20021007133025.P25685@verdot.inria.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021007133025.P25685@verdot.inria.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i From: Sven LUTHER Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 01:30:25PM +0200, Daniel de Rauglaudre wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 01:25:59PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > Well, yes, ok, that is no problem, the problem is if you need the > > _sources_ of the compiler to build the program, as opposed to having the > > correct version of the compiler available. > > You *don't need* the sources of OCaml to compile Camlp4. You just need > that OCaml (binary and library) is installed, that's all. Ok, like said, i have no problem with that. > > I don't see how the internal problems of the ocaml team has to do with > > the seriousness or the readiness for industrial purpose ? As long as you > > don't export it to the outside that is. > > The director of the project argues me that it is not possible to > separate Camlp4 from OCaml because "we have industrial contacts". Well, i am no industrial contract, but i would also very much prefer to keep it together (for ease at packaging at least). > > > Can you imagine what happens if the second of Microsoft tells to a > > > customer that Windows is "not serious"? The guy would be dismissed. > > > > Sure, but he would have been right, would he not ? > > Yes. But right or not, it is not the point. In the point of view of > having users, or customers, destroying the work of his colleagues is a > dangerous thing, which has consequences. Bad for sells, or bad for > convincing the decidors, who are sometime not scientifics. I should have added a smiley. > > Beside the fact that Camel could have sued you for unlicensed use of > > the icon [...] > > You joke? They would be happy, for sure, that scientifics encourage > them and give them free ad! Maybe, but it still is unlicensed use of trademarked material, or something such. > > and that it may well be contrary to the french laws about publicity > > for cigarets, i don't think that the icon used for ocaml has bought > > anyone to smoke. > > Ah, this is what they say in "Formule 1". I am convinced of the contrary. Huh ??? But i think we are going too much of topic here, please reply in private mail if needed. Friendly, Sven Luther ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners