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From: Daniel de Rauglaudre <daniel.de_rauglaudre@inria.fr>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Threats on future of Camlp4
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:30:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021007133025.P25685@verdot.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021007112559.GA18698@iliana>; from luther@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr on Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 01:25:59PM +0200

Hi,

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 01:25:59PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:

> Well, yes, ok, that is no problem, the problem is if you need the
> _sources_ of the compiler to build the program, as opposed to having the
> correct version of the compiler available.

You *don't need* the sources of OCaml to compile Camlp4. You just need
that OCaml (binary and library) is installed, that's all.

> I don't see how the internal problems of the ocaml team has to do with
> the seriousness or the readiness for industrial purpose ? As long as you
> don't export it to the outside that is.

The director of the project argues me that it is not possible to
separate Camlp4 from OCaml because "we have industrial contacts".

> > Can you imagine what happens if the second of Microsoft tells to a
> > customer that Windows is "not serious"? The guy would be dismissed.
> 
> Sure, but he would have been right, would he not ?

Yes. But right or not, it is not the point. In the point of view of
having users, or customers, destroying the work of his colleagues is a
dangerous thing, which has consequences. Bad for sells, or bad for
convincing the decidors, who are sometime not scientifics.

> Beside the fact that Camel could have sued you for unlicensed use of
> the icon [...]

You joke? They would be happy, for sure, that scientifics encourage
them and give them free ad!

> and that it may well be contrary to the french laws about publicity
> for cigarets, i don't think that the icon used for ocaml has bought
> anyone to smoke.

Ah, this is what they say in "Formule 1". I am convinced of the contrary.

-- 
Daniel de RAUGLAUDRE
daniel.de_rauglaudre@inria.fr
http://cristal.inria.fr/~ddr/
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-07 11:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-06 18:55 Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 19:23 ` Chris Hecker
2002-10-06 19:52   ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 21:01   ` brogoff
2002-10-06 21:09     ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 19:29 ` Oleg
2002-10-06 20:01   ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 20:24     ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-10-06 20:24       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
     [not found]         ` <200210062143.g96Lhix15834@orchestra.cs.caltech.edu>
2002-10-07  2:47           ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 20:28     ` Dave Mason
2002-10-06 20:50       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 20:45     ` Oleg
2002-10-06 21:03       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 21:46         ` Florian Douetteau
2002-10-07  2:56           ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-06 23:54     ` Markus Mottl
2002-10-07  9:06       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-11 11:34       ` Kontra, Gergely
2002-10-11 12:56         ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-10-11 13:15         ` [Caml-list] Future " Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-12 21:45           ` Oleg
2002-10-13  9:02             ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-11 16:36         ` [Caml-list] Syntax brogoff
2002-10-07  7:21 ` [Caml-list] Threats on future of Camlp4 Sven LUTHER
2002-10-07  8:52   ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-07 11:25     ` Sven LUTHER
2002-10-07 11:30       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre [this message]
2002-10-07 11:55         ` Sven LUTHER
2002-10-08  7:57     ` Alessandro Baretta
     [not found]       ` <nhalm59cf0s.fsf@malabar.mitre.org>
2002-10-08 14:05         ` Alessandro Baretta

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