From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id RAA01785; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:55:10 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03394 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:55:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from boule.etirade.com (12-247-44-244.client.attbi.com [12.247.44.244]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id g9HFt9D14166 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:55:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (qmail 1075 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2002 15:55:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO batard.etirade.com) (192.168.1.34) by boule.etirade.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2002 15:55:07 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jeffrey Palmer To: Caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] productivity improvement Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:55:05 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200210171055.05646.jeffrey.palmer@acm.org> Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk Hello all. I have a request. Can we please cease the C++ flamefest? Some of us are not able to choose=20 our implementation language quite as easily as others, and, frankly,=20 endless discussions about language X's failings just irritate the=20 people that are forced to use X daily. Making blanket statements like=20 "language X clearly isn't good for anything" is just ridiculous -=20 nothing is ever that clear cut.=20 If we were to talk about the aspects of C++ (or Java, or ...) that we=20 could apply to ocaml, that might be a different story (there might not=20 be many!) For my part, I'm under the impression that cross-module functor=20 specializations (terminology?) in ocaml, akin to C++ template=20 instantiation, are not optimized in the same manner as C++ templates=20 (compiled away). Is this true? This is a killer for me, as I can't even=20 afford the overhead of a function call (don't ask). I would love to be able to write my product in ocaml, and plop a C++=20 wrapper on top of it, but practicalities unfortunately make this an=20 impossibility. I need to do things similar to Blitz, which I suppose=20 dooms me to template hell. ;) =09- j --=20 The river is moving. The blackbird must be flying. ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners