From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id NAA02252; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:25:36 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03382 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:25:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g9IBPX521399; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:25:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from santenay.inria.fr (santenay.inria.fr [128.93.8.59]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03464; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:25:32 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:25:31 +0200 From: Maxence Guesdon To: caml-list@inria.fr Cc: ocaml_beginners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Is Caml a fraud ( especially on Windows )? Message-Id: <20021018132531.132cdc05.maxence.guesdon@inria.fr> In-Reply-To: <3daf2a4f.865261093@smtp.interaccess.com> References: <3daf2a4f.865261093@smtp.interaccess.com> Organization: INRIA X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; ) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk Hi, > The third incident was trying to get cameleon to compile on Windows. > At the time I tried this, several other people were asking about > cameleon problems, so one of the creators did something incredibly > stupid. He created a seperate mailing list for cameleon problems. > It was incredibly stupid because the two major problems I had were: > 1) A camlp4 problem, and 2) the path of cl.exe. These were two > problems where the problem was with caml in general, and it would > help to have the input of the people on the mailing list. I suspect > many cameleon problems are like that. I created the cameleon-list because, suddenly, there seemed to be various users having problems compiling cameleon, and the caml-list is NOT the place to discuss about it. The cameleon-list is the good place to post such messages, as you won't bother caml-list subscribers not interested in cameleon. You may think it's stupid, it's your opinion. But I think that people on this list will agree with me. BTW, sending error reports just saying "it fails" IS stupid : I had to ask you for the error messages... > These problems don't stop there though. The cameleon web page claims > that it runs on both Unix and Windows. But I've had several major > problems getting it to compile on Windows. The final one came when I > finally got the compiler to run on a file, only to be told that there > were some invalid parameters. Upon examination I discover that the > parameters are library parameters for a C compiler, so now it looks > like I will have to rewrite pretty much the whole build system for > cameleon. Frankly I don't particularly like rewriting build systems > for systems that I am not that familiar with. AS replied by Remi, I don't claim Cameleon works on Windows, but should work on Cygwin under Windows, which is different. As you may have read on the cameleon-list, if someone wants to port the building system of Cameleon to Windows, i'll be happy to add it to the cameleon distrib. I can't do everything. Please don't blame people for not doing something YOU need. > But worse. I have to build cameleon in order to get ocamldebug. > Even if I get it to build I am likely to have troubles, if as I > suspect it is gdb based. So I'm likely to spend a lot of time trying > to get something to work that will probably fail anyway. Time I could > and should spend learning a programming language. I know I should not say that but here it comes : What about spending some time reading docs ? -- Maxence Guesdon ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners