From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id LAA31798; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:27:18 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA31858 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:27:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from mel-rto2.wanadoo.fr (smtp-out-2.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.254]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h1PARGH09690; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:27:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from mel-rta7.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.61) by mel-rto2.wanadoo.fr (6.7.015) id 3E0C3370025F3481; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:27:16 +0100 Received: from iliana (81.50.248.12) by mel-rta7.wanadoo.fr (6.7.015) id 3E5335B100365C60; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:27:16 +0100 Received: from luther by iliana with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18ncIt-0000Pq-00; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:27:15 +0100 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:27:14 +0100 To: Damien Doligez Cc: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] User library license Message-ID: <20030225102714.GB841@iliana> References: <20030224092404.GB826@iliana> <89393F54-483D-11D7-B640-0003930FCE12@inria.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <89393F54-483D-11D7-B640-0003930FCE12@inria.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i From: Sven Luther Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 10:18:36PM +0100, Damien Doligez wrote: > On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 10:24 AM, Sven Luther wrote: > > >The problem with that is that anyone can take your work, modify it, and > >don't give anything back, look at apple for example, they took the BSD > >kernel, and don't give anything back. > > Doh. Apple has release all their changes to the BSD kernel > under an open source licence. If the kernel had been under GPL, > that wouldn't have changed much for them. Sure, but they don't release low level information on their hardware, in particular not some stuff needed by the XFree86 developpers, altough they are happy enough to integrate the XDarwin server in MacOS X. Anyway, maybe it was not the best idea to take Apple as example, give me another try. There is log of BSD code in windows NT, and Microsoft sure didn't give anything back for it, they even tried to hijack the open standards and such. > > I think licencing is the main > >reason they choose a BSD kernel over a linux one back then. > > It was NeXT that chose a BSD kernel. Darwin is the son of NeXTStep. > Back then, Linux didn't exist, so the choice was not hard to make. But they could have changed that in early 98 when Steve came back to apple. I am sure one strong argument against it was the licencing. > > I suppose some people (including me) would not be willing to > >contribute code under these circunstances > > The problem with these license discussions is that nobody knows > what they are talking about. We're not lawyers after all. Speak for yourself, as a debian developper, i have to pay close attention to licencing issues, and think i know at least something about it. I am not sure a lawyer not specialized in computer licences would know more about it than me. But anyway, this is more a political decision than a legal one, and again, please let's take this discution to some other place, i will no more post on this subject here. Friendly, Sven Luther ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners