From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id SAA12443; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:16:24 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA12457 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:16:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from ux9.sp.cs.cmu.edu (UX9.SP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.220.166]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id h1PHGMT16935 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:16:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from 12-227-100-158.client.attbi.com ([12.227.100.158]) by ux9.sp.cs.cmu.edu id aa28703; 25 Feb 2003 12:15 EST Received: from ecc by stratocaster.home with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18nigI-0001K5-00 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:15:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:15:50 -0500 To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Alternative proposal: COAN Message-ID: <20030225171550.GA5041@stratocaster.home> Mail-Followup-To: caml-list@inria.fr References: <02103BF1-4835-11D7-B97A-000A95773ED2@rouaix.org> <15963.19322.759255.37091@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15963.19322.759255.37091@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i From: "Eric C. Cooper" Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 11:54:50AM +0100, roberto@dicosmo.org wrote: > I think I cannot avoid to agree with what Brian puts forward: I had > a similar experience installyng Sympa (a Majordomo replacement > written in Perl by a French institution, which, by the way, is a > remarkable piece of software), where I spent a day trying to > understand why the ludicrous install procedure was throwing on me > zillions of packages, including a rebuild of Perl 5.8. > ... > But, wait, after all, this is pretty similar to what is done by apt > in the Debian linux distribution! Probably one should have a look at > apt as a starting point. I would be interested to have the feelings > of the various people here that do Debian packages on the > suitability of the apt tools to handle this kind of issues in the > Ocaml world. I have gotten into the habit of using apt-get for all the Perl modules I need to install, rather than going to CPAN. The Debian maintainers have done the hard work of specifying the dependencies, install scripts, etc. so that it's easy to install and uninstall them. I'm sure I get only a small subset of CPAN that way, but the quality control has been worth it, and I haven't needed anything that wasn't already Debianized. This is mainly valuable because it is the *same* apt-get tool used for everything on the system, not a parallel tool just for Perl. It makes it easier for Perl applications to be mainstream rather than marginal, because other packages can easily and robustly specify dependencies on the Perl apps. For these reasons, a parallel tool just for OCaml would be less useful than packaging the relevant libraries as Debian packages (like Sven Luther and others have done -- thanks!) But that doesn't help non-Debian OCaml users. -- Eric C. Cooper e c c @ c m u . e d u ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners