From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id NAA03929; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:03:52 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03684 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:03:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from mel-rto2.wanadoo.fr (smtp-out-2.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.254]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h1QC3oT01935 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:03:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from mel-rta6.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.26) by mel-rto2.wanadoo.fr (6.7.015) id 3E0C3370026CAAE8; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:03:36 +0100 Received: from iliana (81.49.169.71) by mel-rta6.wanadoo.fr (6.7.015) id 3E26CE21017455F9; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:03:36 +0100 Received: from luther by iliana with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18o0Hf-0000x4-00; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:03:35 +0100 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:03:34 +0100 To: Olivier Andrieu Cc: Sven Luther , caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Alternative proposal: COAN Message-ID: <20030226120334.GB3568@iliana> References: <02103BF1-4835-11D7-B97A-000A95773ED2@rouaix.org> <15963.19322.759255.37091@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20030225171550.GA5041@stratocaster.home> <20030225214833.GA13418@roke.freak> <20030225225918.GA13944@iliana> <20030226094747.GA5164@roke.freak> <20030226101150.GA2675@iliana> <15964.39005.533463.339987@akasha.ijm.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15964.39005.533463.339987@akasha.ijm.jussieu.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i From: Sven Luther Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 11:35:09AM +0100, Olivier Andrieu wrote: > Sven Luther [Wednesday 26 February 2003] : > > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 10:47:47AM +0100, Michal Moskal wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 11:59:18PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > Look how much perl modules is debianized and how much ocaml > > > > > modules is. > > > > > > > > This is because there are much more debian maintainers who package perl > > > > stuff, than debian maintainers who package ocaml stuff. Also mostly we > > > > prefer to package stuff we use, as it is much easier to do high quality > > > > packages in these cases. And help is always welcome. I guess it is the > > > > same for PLD too. > > > > > > But the perl packages are *much* easier to package. And that's because > > > they're standardized. > > > > Well, i guess well written ocaml packages are quite easy to package > > The problem is that every package has a different build system, > configuration system (Makefile targets), installation directories, > etc. Of course it is "easy" to package them : just issue the right > (Makefile or whatever) commands, set the right Makefile variables, Sure, you just need to correctly read the README or INSTALL file, where it usually is written, together with the build depends. > etc. The problem is that you have to spend some time figuring out > these commands. Ideally, it should be as simple as : > > perl Makefile.Pl > or > python ./setup.py build Well, the debian way is to have the maintainers do a (little) bit more work, and have everyone else just rely on apt-get. Also, we separate the configuration, building and installation phases. Also, some parts need a bit more complicated things, like separating arch-dependent from arch-independent parts, eventually installing stuff in policy mandated places and other such. I think it is not really all that much work, once the bytecode/nativecode makefile targets are well written and that DESTDIR is supported. > One more point is that ocaml is multi-platform : so this build system > should be able to run on unix, Windows, MacOS. Packages that wraps C > libraries will probably be platform-specific but it think it would be > nice if pure ocaml programs could be built the same way on every > platform supported by ocaml. Again speaks the non-package user. I personally don't care all that much, as you may guess, and i believe that i could manage to build packages of ocaml stuff for win32 and macos directly from the debian packages. What more do you need ? I think there was even a debian/solaris port some time ago, but i don't know what did become of it. Anyway, i am running linux on my sparc box. Friendly, Sven Luther ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners