From: Martin Weber <Ephaeton@gmx.net>
To: Michael Schuerig <schuerig@acm.org>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml popularity
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 00:13:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030312231352.GC372@phaeton.entropie.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200303122334.34982.schuerig@acm.org>
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:34:34PM +0100, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> (...)
> Is software development in industry only about GUI screens, web pages
> and database access? Well, from my own experience, I fear the answer is
> mostly yes.
I'm working next to asic designers, and they give a shit about the web,
database access and guis :) They want scriptability and a clean programming
interface instead ... (and yeah, they appreciate good guis).
On the other hand, they are electrical engineers, so I guess they are not
too keen on learning yet another language - most proprietary tools they
use offer tcl as the scripting language, so that's a de facto standard -
and they're not interested in typing(1) around either ... as soon as it works
it's fine :) (see pentium bug - it's still there... but patched:-))
> That being as it is, would things in industry be that much
> better if OCaml had everything it takes for writing enterprise
> applications?
> (...)
I don't know what usually classifies as 'enterprise application' but I
think what I'm doing is one - application(s) written solely for the use
within the producing corner - no end user will ever see it (except if
we release the stuff as opensource, but that's still being debated :).
That said, in *my* environment I don't think (oca)ml really has any
chance against tcl and/or perl, just because those two (or especially
tcl) are so simple. And I don't think that it can be the intention of
ocaml to get that simple as is tcl...
On the other hand, *I* could write the application in Ocaml, plugging
in both C extensions and (on that way, too) a tcl interpreter while
enabling an ocaml toplevel for the savvy.... hmmm....
but you know.. inherit a ton of C code..
regards,
-martin (taking another couple of notes for the 2.0)
(1) not as in inputting text into the computer, but stumbling over
beginner errors like my beloved +. :)
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2003-03-06 23:27 Graham Guttocks
2003-03-10 20:43 ` Paul Steckler
2003-03-10 23:48 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2003-03-11 0:18 ` Brian Hurt
2003-03-17 23:49 ` Graham Guttocks
2003-03-11 1:43 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-03-11 10:23 ` Pierre Weis
2003-03-11 14:27 ` Guillaume Marceau
2003-03-11 16:16 ` David Brown
2003-03-11 16:47 ` [Caml-list] about -rectypes Christophe Raffalli
2003-03-12 2:32 ` [Caml-list] OCaml popularity Nicolas Cannasse
2003-03-12 3:55 ` Cross-platform GUI (was Re: [Caml-list] OCaml popularity) mgushee
2003-03-12 10:51 ` [Caml-list] OCaml popularity Alex Romadinoff
2003-03-12 18:24 ` Max Kirillov
2003-03-11 19:02 ` Graham Guttocks
2003-03-12 17:12 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2003-03-12 18:08 ` Alwyn Goodloe
2003-03-12 22:34 ` Michael Schuerig
2003-03-12 23:13 ` Martin Weber [this message]
2003-03-12 23:35 ` Michael Schuerig
2003-03-13 8:02 ` Alessandro Baretta
2003-03-13 10:23 ` Michael Schuerig
2003-03-12 23:35 ` Brian Hurt
2003-03-12 23:18 ` Daniel Bünzli
2003-03-12 23:47 ` Brian Hurt
2003-03-13 2:15 ` William Lovas
2003-03-13 3:44 ` Graham Guttocks
2003-03-13 9:31 ` Richard W.M. Jones
[not found] ` <20030313095232.GC347@first.in-berlin.de>
2003-03-13 20:50 ` William Lovas
2003-03-13 21:17 ` Oliver Bandel
2003-03-13 22:01 ` Brian Hurt
2003-03-13 22:17 ` Oliver Bandel
2003-03-14 6:33 ` Michal Moskal
2003-03-14 11:50 ` Markus Mottl
2003-03-14 15:38 ` Oliver Bandel
2003-03-14 10:13 ` MikhailFedotov
2003-03-14 10:30 ` Johann Spies
2003-03-13 8:09 ` Pierre Weis
2003-03-15 1:43 ` Tushar Samant
2003-03-15 8:19 ` Andreas Eder
2003-03-11 16:26 ` Fred Yankowski
2003-03-11 19:47 ` [Caml-list] OCaml popularity (long!) mgushee
2003-03-12 11:23 ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2003-03-30 5:59 ` Belated thanks (was Re: [Caml-list] OCaml popularity) Matt Gushee
2003-03-31 15:27 ` [Caml-list] Re: Belated thanks cashin
2003-04-01 8:22 ` Belated thanks (was Re: [Caml-list] OCaml popularity) Johann Spies
2003-03-12 20:41 ` [Caml-list] OCaml popularity (long!) Max Kirillov
2003-03-13 2:36 ` Haskell-like syntax (was: [Caml-list] OCaml popularity (long!)) Oleg
2003-03-13 18:33 ` [Caml-list] Re: Haskell-like syntax Max Kirillov
2003-03-14 19:30 ` Max Kirillov
2003-03-14 19:47 ` Max Kirillov
2003-03-14 20:01 ` Seth Kurtzberg
2003-03-14 20:34 ` brogoff
2003-03-14 21:17 ` Sebastien Carlier
2003-03-14 21:51 ` brogoff
2003-03-15 2:27 ` Max Kirillov
2003-03-15 10:58 ` Markus Mottl
2003-03-15 15:52 ` [Caml-list] globally valid symbols (was: Haskell-like syntax) Max Kirillov
2003-03-15 20:16 ` [Caml-list] Re: Haskell-like syntax David Brown
2003-03-16 5:28 ` Module recursion (Was Re: [Caml-list] Re: Haskell-like syntax) brogoff
2003-03-16 11:10 ` Markus Mottl
2003-03-16 18:02 ` brogoff
2003-03-16 18:34 ` Markus Mottl
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303152112560.27230-100000@grace.speakeasy.n et>
2003-03-16 5:38 ` Chris Hecker
2003-03-16 18:34 ` brogoff
2003-03-17 2:20 ` Jacques Garrigue
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303161020480.11736-100000@grace.speakeasy.n et>
2003-03-17 5:08 ` Chris Hecker
2003-03-17 17:06 ` brogoff
2003-03-17 19:01 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303170836240.29039-100000@grace.speakeasy.n et>
2003-03-17 19:33 ` Chris Hecker
2003-03-17 20:28 ` brogoff
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303171145500.29039-100000@grace.speakeasy.n et>
2003-03-17 21:09 ` Chris Hecker
2003-03-19 2:34 ` [Caml-list] ocamlopt speed (was Re: Module recursion) Chris Hecker
2003-03-19 10:03 ` Michal Moskal
2003-03-19 10:38 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2003-03-19 20:36 ` Chris Hecker
2003-03-17 1:46 ` [Caml-list] Re: Haskell-like syntax Nicolas Cannasse
2003-03-14 22:50 ` Oleg
2003-03-20 15:01 ` Andreas Rossberg
2003-03-12 20:46 ` [Caml-list] Monads was OCaml popularity Christophe Raffalli
2003-03-13 0:03 ` [Caml-list] monads for dummies james woodyatt
2003-03-13 4:32 ` Christopher Quinn
2003-03-13 11:53 ` Christian Lindig
2003-03-12 18:59 ` [Caml-list] OCaml popularity Martin Weber
2003-03-12 20:24 ` Xavier Leroy
2003-03-13 8:57 ` [Caml-list] how to interface with integer Bigarrays using camlidl francois bereux
2003-03-13 9:36 ` Xavier Leroy
2003-03-13 0:42 ` [Caml-list] OCaml popularity Graham Guttocks
2003-03-12 17:40 isaac gouy
2003-03-12 23:53 [oliver: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml popularity] Oliver Bandel
2003-03-13 1:34 ` [Caml-list] OCaml popularity Michael Schuerig
2003-03-13 7:09 Daniel M. Albro
2003-03-13 16:48 ` Neel Krishnaswami
2003-03-13 21:29 ` Karl Zilles
2003-03-13 21:36 ` Daniel M. Albro
2003-03-13 21:42 ` Daniel M. Albro
[not found] ` <15985.1204.814698.939943@h00045a4799d6.ne.client2.attbi.com>
2003-03-14 5:49 ` Daniel M. Albro
2003-03-14 9:05 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-03-14 9:13 ` Daniel M. Albro
2003-03-13 21:53 ` Brian Hurt
2003-03-13 14:39 [oliver: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml popularity] Oliver Bandel
2003-03-13 16:35 ` [Caml-list] OCaml popularity Michael Schuerig
2003-03-14 22:14 Daniel M. Albro
2003-03-15 16:27 Oliver Bandel
2003-03-15 17:55 ` Sergey Goldgaber
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