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From: Xavier Leroy <xavier.leroy@inria.fr>
To: John Carr <jfc@MIT.EDU>
Cc: OCaml List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] register windows
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 21:48:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030520214854.A31426@pauillac.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200305171321.JAA30974@psi-phi.mit.edu>; from jfc@MIT.EDU on Sat, May 17, 2003 at 09:21:52AM -0400

> On the other hand, ocaml does not use register windows on SPARC and
> fixing that would be a big change.  Did somebody determine that the
> "flat" model was faster, or was it just easier to implement?

I experimented both approaches (with and without register windows) on
the SPARC a long time ago, in the Gallium experimental compiler
(which, after a complete rewrite, became the OCaml native-code compiler).
IIRC, there was one test where register windows were slightly faster;
on most tests, they were somewhat slower; and on a few tests involving
deep recursion, the code using register windows was 10-50 times slower
than the code that didn't use them.  I believe the Chez Scheme people
conducted similar experiments, with the same conclusions.

> SPARC v9 may change the equation because it was designed to make
> save and restore instructions fast, reducing window overflow traps
> to under 50 cycles.

A fixed-size register window is always going to save and restore too
many registers.  Even with variable-sized windows like on the IA64,
I believe it's more efficient to schedule explicit spills and reloads in
between regular instructions than rely on the hardware and OS to move
window contents to and from the stack.

- Xavier Leroy

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-20 19:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-16  8:24 [Caml-list] POSIX Threads: kill Christoph Bauer
2003-05-16  9:54 ` Xavier Leroy
2003-05-17 13:21   ` John Carr
2003-05-20 19:48     ` Xavier Leroy [this message]
2003-05-20 21:26       ` [Caml-list] register windows John Carr
2003-05-24  9:56         ` Xavier Leroy
2003-06-02 21:00     ` [Caml-list] POSIX Threads: kill John Max Skaller

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