From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id JAA06568; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:07:52 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21884 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:07:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from btr0x1.rz.uni-bayreuth.de (btr0x1.rz.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.8.29]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h6G77oT26052 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:07:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from btn1x1.inf.uni-bayreuth.de (btn1x1.inf.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.192.6]) by btr0x1.rz.uni-bayreuth.de (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h6G77fna008439; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:07:41 +0200 (MEST) Received: from btn1x5.inf.uni-bayreuth.de (btn1x5.inf.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.192.16]) by btn1x1.inf.uni-bayreuth.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h6G77eWx027494; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:07:40 +0200 From: Wolfgang =?iso-8859-1?q?M=FCller?= To: "BdB" Subject: Re: [Caml-list] CTAN/CPAN for Caml (COCAN ...?) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:07:40 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: Cc: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307160907.40563.wolfgang.mueller2@uni-bayreuth.de> X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; mueller:99 caml-list:01 cpan:01 cpan-like:01 libs:01 newbies:01 -mcpan:01 tarballs:01 ocamldep:01 camlp:01 java-like:01 partition:01 newbie:01 caml:01 imho:01 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Wednesday 16 July 2003 08:43, BdB wrote: > =80.02 here: there's a couple of stuff that a CPAN-like website could do My $0.02 (for character table reasons ;-) ) > 1) hosting libs > 2) cross-referencing & automatic dependency generation > 3) registry (the business of ensuring non-collision) > > It seems to me that the sites you mention only provide hosting among these > three points. Which is still interesting. I agree completely here. I think it would be great to have some automatic=20 installation or downloading facility like the CPAN module in perl. I think= =20 like this it would be easier to make people like me (i.e. newbies) look for= =20 useful stuff before starting to code, and make it easy for people to ship=20 their code if it needs to be shipped.=20 Personally, in my experience with CPAN IMHO what is needed most for shippin= g=20 code is some code that generates a tarball of all the prerequisites needed= =20 for a given package of code, together with an idiot-proof makefile. Most=20 people I work with do not like the -MCPAN (it can make problems if you're n= ot=20 root, you have to answer many questions, there are firewalls), so I cannot= =20 send them simple scripts that use the CPAN module for downloading the usefu= l=20 stuff, I have to do the actual tarballs myself. > I would think that coding 2) is just a matter of motivation. ocamldep and > camlp4 should help. Oh, for this I am too newbyish > As for the last point... well, one possible drawback of current O'CaML is > its module namespace. My fear is that module names are soon enough going = to > look like JoesXMLParser to distinguish it from MikesXMLParser (betting on > the success of the initiative here). Well, actually there can be modules > within modules, so that's not exactly a flat module namespace. But if > someone makes a module called Joe.XMLParser, it has got to be defined in > joe.ml[i], which is in my opinion a pretty bad name to give to a file > containing an XML parser. Maybe java-like module namespace partition is > something worth considering for efficient community management? =2E..sounds great to a newbie like me... Cheers, Wolfgang ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners