From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id BAA00786; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 01:16:47 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA13990 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 01:16:44 +0200 (MET DST) X-SPAM-Warning: Sending machine is listed in blackholes.five-ten-sg.com Received: from eposta.kablonet.com.tr ([62.248.102.66]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id h7ANGgT16359 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 01:16:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (qmail 17832 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2003 23:19:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 195.174.173.82) (exa@kablonet.com.tr@195.174.173.82) by 0 with SMTP; 10 Aug 2003 23:19:33 -0000 From: Eray Ozkural Reply-To: erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr Organization: Bilkent University CS Dept. To: skaller@ozemail.com.au, "Alexander V. Voinov" Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: Tcl/Tk and RH 9 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:15:42 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.9 Cc: Jacques Garrigue , caml-list@inria.fr References: <1060394583.12630.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F35A58E.3030804@quasar.ipa.nw.ru> <1060550794.6174.94.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1060550794.6174.94.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200308110215.42114.exa@kablonet.com.tr> X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; eray:01 ozkural:01 caml-list:01 python:01 lousy:01 gui:01 gdb:01 itk:99 facto:01 distro:01 toolkit:01 bug:01 faq:01 beginner's:01 beginners:01 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk I must point out that skaller's claims are factually wrong in his post that I replying to. tkinter is the python bindings to tk. It's normal that it isn't included in that standard lousy 1 CD red hat installation. Debian package: python2.3-tk - Tkinter - Writing Tk applications with Python (v2.3) tcl/tk is *not* the same thing as tkinter. In fact, tcl/tk is pretty standard in all linux distros. The "deep" GUI to gdb insight developed at Red Hat exclusively uses tcl/tk/itcl/itk. tcl/tk is also perfect for cross-platform applications. It runs solidly on both windows and unix families on OSs incredibly well. Besides, Red Hat is *not* the de facto linux distro. There are maybe 100 distros right now. GTK on the other hand, isn't the top notch toolkit out there. The technically superior toolkit is Qt *grin* On Monday 11 August 2003 00:26, skaller wrote: > This is a standard, out of the box install of RH9. > If, for example, Government departments buy a heap > of Linux boxes and install RH9, they won't get Tk > as part of the deal. > > So it would be foolish to continue development of > products that use it if you want to be part of the > growing market of vendors of enterprise level packages > for Linux. > > Redhat has swung soldily behind Gtk. To the point > Tk is no longer considered worth installing by default. > Enterprise software such as Open Office doesn't use it. > It is no longer part of the enterprise level users > software base. > > > > ------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: > http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: > http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners -- Eray Ozkural (exa) Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara KDE Project: http://www.kde.org www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo Malfunction: http://mp3.com/ariza GPG public key fingerprint: 360C 852F 88B0 A745 F31B EA0F 7C07 AE16 874D 539C ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners