From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id TAA17249; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:17:01 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA16993 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:17:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from abel.swapping.umh.ac.be (nat2.umh.ac.be [193.190.193.2]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id hAQIGx118013 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:16:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from abel.swapping.umh.ac.be ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=trch) by abel.swapping.umh.ac.be with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AP4EC-0001HD-00; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:17:28 +0100 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:17:27 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20031126.191727.06256132.Christophe.Troestler@umh.ac.be> To: "O'Caml Mailing List" Subject: [Caml-list] Caml as a first language From: Christophe TROESTLER Organization: Universite de Mons-Hainaut X-URL: http://www.umh.ac.be/math/an/ X-Spook: supercomputer Lexis-Nexis kibo CISU defense information warfare codes KGB asset broadside cybercash X-Mailer-URL: http://www.mew.org/ X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux (http://www.linux.org/) X-Blessing: Om Ah Hum Vajra Guru Pema Siddhi Hum X-Mailer: Mew version 4.0.61 on Emacs 21.3.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; troestler:01 troestler:01 riders:01 drml:01 chris:01 christophe:01 christophe:01 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 caml:01 caml:01 off-topic:01 slightly:03 scheme:03 U11:94 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk Dear Caml riders, At my university, we are currently discussing the language to adopt to teach programming during the first year for mathematicians, computer scientists, and physicists. The choice will be among: * C (the current one) * Scheme * OCaml To foster our discussion, I would be interested in your EXPERIENCES both at teaching Caml or at learning it (what is easy, what are the difficulties, comparisons with other languages, successful methodology,...). If some people have notes that are not in the "Documentation" section of the humps and agree that I take a look, do not hesitate to send them. The chosen language will serve a variety of purposes beyond learning to develop programs : it will be used in an introduction to numerical methods course (for which scientific graphics are important), a course on formal methods,... You can also offer your comments on that. As a related note, would some people be interested in "translating" a book like HtDP (http://www.htdp.org/) to OCaml -- and to set up a web site for collaborative effort? Also, there was some talk some time ago about a DrML environment. Has that software made any progress? So as not to clutter the list with this slightly off-topic subject, please reply to me directly. Cheers, ChriS ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners