From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id KAA00970; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 10:24:51 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22176 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 10:24:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id i039Oob12970 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 10:24:50 +0100 (MET) Received: (from xleroy@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id KAA01151 for caml-list@inria.fr; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 10:24:49 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 10:24:49 +0100 From: Xavier Leroy To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: [Caml-list] posting policy and spam Message-ID: <20040103102449.D31406@pauillac.inria.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 spamoracle:01 forged:99 posts:01 posts:01 caml-list:01 concorde:99 foo:01 foo:01 subscription:98 subscription:98 subscribed:97 subscribed:97 match:02 subscribe:97 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk There have been several complains recently about spam getting through the caml-list. For your information, the list is filtered through SpamOracle, and the posting address receives several hundred spams a day. Due to spammers getting more clever, the efficiency of the filtering went from perfect to about 99%. That's enough to let significant amounts of spam slip through. By popular demand, I just put the list in "subscribers only" posting mode. That should get rid of almost all spam. (Keep in mind, however, that a forged From address on a spam can match that of a list subscriber; it happened in the past.) The problem with the "subscribers only" policy is that many subscribers receive the list at one address and post through another. This will no longer work. In the past, posts coming from non-subscribers were run through a moderator. Moderation is a boring and time-consuming task for which we no longer have volunteers. Consequently, all posts not coming from a subscribed address are now summarily and irremediably discarded. If your posts don't appear on the list, that's why. You need either to subscribe to the list with the same address that you use for posting (see below for hints), or adjust the From address in your posts so that it matches the subscribed address. Yes, this is a bit drastic, but there is no middle ground between accepting too many posts (including spams) and rejecting too many (including legitimate posters). Pick your poison. To finish, a few hints on using the caml-list manager: Q1: How do I know which address I'm subscribed from? A: Look at the "Received" headers in any message sent from caml-list. If you're lucky, there will be a line "Received from concorde.inria.fr ... for foo@bar.com" or "Received from nez-perce.inria.fr ... for foo@bar.com" In this case, your subscription address is "foo@bar.com". Q2: How to change my subscription address? A: Send a message to caml-list-request@inria.fr containing the following two lines: unsubscribe caml-list old-address@foo.com subscribe caml-list new-address@bar.com Note that this message can be sent from any mail address, not just old-address@foo.com or new-address@bar.com. You'll receive a message at new-address asking you to confirm your subscription. - Xavier Leroy ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners