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From: Max Kirillov <max630@mail.ru>
To: Ocaml Mailing List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] ANNOUNCE: mod_caml 1.0.6 - includes security patch
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:07:58 +0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040122010758.A2878@max.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040120193756.GA25813@davidb.org>; from caml-list@davidb.org on Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:37:56AM -0800

On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:37:56AM -0800, David Brown wrote:
> The where clause works well for Haskell, because there are no order of
> evaluation issues.  Because of side-effects, the where clause in ocaml
> would usually just end up being confusing.  Think of a multi-page
> expression with a where clause at the end.  Not that this is good code,
> but it would sure be easy to miss.  It would probably cause the same
> kinds of problems that C's 'break' causes in switch statements.

If you want to make your code cryptic, no language feature (or
lack of one) can prevent you from that. "Where" construction is
a powerful way to make code more readable, placing it in "top to
bottom" style. You noted that placing actual computation in where block
can hinder the evaluation order. Then don't place the computation in
"where" block! Let's rewrite your example like this:

let _ = 
    let x = g () in
    f x
  where g () = ...

Here, no uncertainty about evaluation order left.

PS: You are right about scoping.  But it's not critical -- it we could
have certain rules, we coul write predictable and readable code.  Some
time ago, I used my own realization of "where" (via camlp4) and often
had to use brackets. Even then, I think that my code was quite readable.
Now, I think than haskell rules (whare as part of definition, not
expression) are quite rasonable.


> Dave Brown

-- 
Max

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-01-21 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-15 14:03 Richard Jones
     [not found] ` <4006AC01.F2AD2741@decis.be>
2004-01-15 15:42   ` Richard Jones
2004-01-15 16:19     ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-15 16:53       ` Richard Jones
2004-01-16  6:15         ` james woodyatt
2004-01-16  9:34           ` Richard Jones
2004-01-16 19:05             ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-16 18:52               ` Yutaka OIWA
2004-01-16 19:20                 ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-16 19:01               ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-19 10:13               ` Luc Maranget
2004-01-19 11:36                 ` Richard Jones
2004-01-19 14:43                   ` Luc Maranget
2004-01-19 16:10                     ` Richard Jones
2004-01-19 17:46                       ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-19 18:05                         ` Richard Jones
2004-01-19 21:45                           ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-20 11:31                             ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-20 12:30                               ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-21 14:01                               ` skaller
2004-01-20 17:34                             ` Michal Moskal
2004-01-20 17:52                               ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-20 18:54                                 ` Michal Moskal
2004-01-20 19:21                                   ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-20 19:37                                   ` David Brown
2004-01-20 20:38                                     ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-21 19:07                                     ` Max Kirillov [this message]
     [not found]                                       ` <Pine.GSO.4.53.0401211150520.10508@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
2004-01-22  2:15                                         ` Max Kirillov
2004-01-20 23:00                               ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-20 23:48                                 ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-21  0:34                                   ` David Brown
2004-01-21  2:32                                     ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-21  2:34                                     ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-21  2:34                                       ` Shawn Wagner
2004-01-21  9:43                                     ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-21  5:16                                   ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-19 21:59                           ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-01-19 18:18                         ` David Brown
2004-01-19 19:15                           ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-19 19:19                             ` David Brown
     [not found]                       ` <20040119185746.A12690@beaune.inria.fr>
2004-01-19 18:07                         ` Richard Jones
2004-01-20  1:29                 ` skaller

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