From: John Carr <jfc@mit.edu>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar (was Re: [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:12:36 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200403181312.i2IDCaDI010697@nerd-xing.mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:22:12 +0100." <00cd01c40cdb$71c34410$4500a8c0@warp>
> Industry adoption of ocaml is in earlier stages, and is not enough
> wide to push the language as fast as expected from the community.
There is a significant barrier to entry that is mostly independent of
the development model. Here's what my boss told me when I suggested
using ocaml in a commercial product:
1. Nobody else knows the language.
2. It doesn't run on our platform.
3. It will break and we can't get support.
An open or closed development model will not by itself change the
perceptions that prevent me from using ocaml at work. The only way I
could have overcome objections 2 and 3 would have been to show a way
to get contract support, as is available for operating system
components and commercial compilers.
Perl was so popular that it became an OS component. gcc was so
popular that companies were willing to invest the money to turn
it into a commercial product.
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Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-09 17:30 [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library Vasili Galchin
2004-03-09 17:55 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-09 18:11 ` Shawn Wagner
2004-03-15 19:44 ` Eric Stokes
2004-03-16 5:32 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-17 15:52 ` Eric Stokes
2004-03-18 0:19 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-18 8:56 ` OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar (was Re: [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library) Matt Gushee
2004-03-18 10:31 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-18 11:22 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-03-18 11:18 ` Wolfgang Müller
2004-03-18 11:55 ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2004-03-18 12:42 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-03-18 14:12 ` Xavier Leroy
2004-03-18 17:18 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-03-18 17:56 ` Alex Baretta
2004-03-18 18:33 ` Markus Mottl
2004-03-19 10:58 ` [Caml-list] Structuring the Caml community Christophe TROESTLER
2004-03-19 18:29 ` Yamagata Yoriyuki
2004-03-18 23:44 ` [Caml-list] Structuring the Caml community (Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar) Alain.Frisch
2004-03-19 8:36 ` Oliver Bandel
2004-03-19 19:03 ` Eric Stokes
2004-03-19 22:34 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-03-19 22:58 ` Matthew O'Connor
2004-03-19 23:15 ` Eric Stokes
2004-03-19 23:23 ` Karl Zilles
2004-03-20 10:10 ` ocaml.org (was: Re: [Caml-list] Structuring the Caml community (Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar)) Richard Jones
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0403201143290.2678-100000@lcmpc4.epfl.ch>
2004-03-20 10:47 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-18 23:41 ` OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar (was Re: [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library) Gerd Stolpmann
2004-03-19 0:47 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-03-19 8:54 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-19 12:29 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-03-19 12:44 ` [Caml-list] Proposed community structure (was Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar) Benjamin Geer
2004-03-19 17:30 ` [Caml-list] " Gerd Stolpmann
2004-03-20 6:30 ` Matt Gushee
2004-03-20 6:49 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-20 13:19 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-03-20 19:03 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-20 11:23 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-03-20 16:46 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-03-20 13:07 ` [Caml-list] Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar Dmitry Bely
2004-03-20 15:55 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-03-20 20:09 ` brogoff
2004-03-18 12:55 ` Alex Baretta
2004-03-19 8:54 ` OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar (was Re: [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library) Sven Luther
2004-03-19 9:12 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-18 13:12 ` John Carr [this message]
2004-03-18 13:56 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-18 18:41 ` Oliver Bandel
2004-03-18 20:10 ` John Carr
2004-03-18 23:20 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-19 1:30 ` Jacques Garrigue
2004-03-19 5:10 ` skaller
2004-03-19 8:41 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 8:58 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-19 9:13 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 10:03 ` Alex Baretta
2004-03-19 10:17 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 11:49 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-03-19 12:20 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-03-19 12:31 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 12:34 ` Issac Trotts
2004-03-21 9:13 ` skaller
2004-03-21 20:05 ` Issac Trotts
[not found] ` <1079927683.3165.73.camel@pelican.wigram>
2004-03-22 6:51 ` Issac Trotts
2004-03-23 19:48 ` skaller
2004-03-23 22:16 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-04-03 6:36 ` Dustin Sallings
2004-04-03 7:43 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-05 7:50 ` Dustin Sallings
2004-04-06 4:20 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-04-06 7:24 ` skaller
2004-04-06 17:24 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-04-06 17:38 ` Kip Macy
2004-04-07 23:11 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-04-07 23:08 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-04-07 23:31 ` Dustin Sallings
2004-04-08 13:57 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-13 11:15 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-04-08 13:48 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-08 14:06 ` Richard Jones
2004-04-08 14:53 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-08 19:56 ` [Caml-list] Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar Christophe TROESTLER
2004-04-08 20:47 ` OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar (was Re: [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library) Evan Martin
2004-04-08 21:20 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-07 23:03 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-04-08 7:03 ` james woodyatt
2004-04-08 7:15 ` Stijn De Saeger
2004-04-08 8:25 ` skaller
2004-04-08 9:35 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-04-08 11:05 ` Florian Hars
2004-04-08 11:31 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-04-08 13:39 ` Jacques Garrigue
2004-04-08 12:33 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-19 12:17 ` Alex Baretta
2004-03-19 12:37 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 12:44 ` Issac Trotts
2004-03-18 23:31 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-03-19 1:08 ` Michael Vanier
2004-03-19 8:51 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 13:20 ` John Carr
2004-03-19 15:12 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-21 21:11 ` John Carr
2004-03-22 6:46 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 8:48 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-18 18:57 ` Shawn Wagner
2004-03-18 21:16 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-03-18 22:32 ` Fernando Alegre
2004-03-19 0:03 ` [Caml-list] Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar Remi Vanicat
2004-03-19 8:50 ` [Caml-list] Demande clarification nomenclature ocaml* Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2004-03-19 9:49 ` [Caml-list] Suggestion (was: Demande clarification nomenclature ocaml*) Wolfgang Müller
2004-03-19 10:19 ` [Caml-list] Modules and namespaces Richard Jones
2004-03-19 10:42 ` Wolfgang Müller
2004-03-19 10:45 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 13:56 ` Fernando Alegre
2004-03-19 15:15 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 11:45 ` [Caml-list] Demande clarification nomenclature ocaml* Benjamin Geer
2004-03-20 6:12 ` OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar (was Re: [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library) Matt Gushee
2004-03-20 11:29 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-03-20 6:23 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-20 6:23 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-09 17:59 ` [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library james woodyatt
2004-03-19 10:19 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-20 6:15 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-20 6:40 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-20 6:45 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-09 18:04 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
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