From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id BAA01636; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 01:47:55 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA01233 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 01:47:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from kefka.frap.net (adsl-64-162-212-212.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.162.212.212]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2J0mMKW030502 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 01:48:23 +0100 Received: by kefka.frap.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6EA946A4C2E; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:47:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:47:42 -0800 From: Kenneth Knowles To: Gerd Stolpmann Cc: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar (was Re: [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library) Message-ID: <20040319004742.GA8727@kefka.frap.net> References: <4059994E.2010802@socialtools.net> <20040318151234.B21768@pauillac.inria.fr> <1079653304.990.89.camel@ice.gerd-stolpmann.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1079653304.990.89.camel@ice.gerd-stolpmann.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Miltered: at nez-perce by Joe's j-chkmail ("http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr")! X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; knowles:99 ocaml's:01 caml-list:01 run-time:01 findlib:01 findlib:01 cpan:01 cpan:01 namespaces:01 dependencies:01 ocaml:01 hierarchy:02 match:02 modules:02 unix:02 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 191 > Of course, the Bazaar needs a bit more organisation, and as you know, I > wrote software supporting this: Findlib and GODI. Findlib is mature > software, even from a professional point of view, and many people are > already using it. GODI is already usable. So the technical solutions > exist (that means: THERE IS A CPAN FOR OCAML, although it uses a > different implementation for a different language, and does not match > C.*AN), and the remaining question is: Does the community accept it? CPAN is much more than an automatic-installation tool. The social organization of the perl namespaces is by far the most important aspect of CPAN. The module to automatically install dependencies etc is just a minor convenience next to the over-arching organizational structure. My comments with regards to namespacing and modules are focused on how to present a wide range of extended libraries in a hierarchy that seems "standard" to someone browsing the archives, to inspire confidence in the completeness and authoritativeness of the archive. GODI doesn't (and doesn't intend to, so that's fine) solve this issue, but clearly the auto-installer on top of such an organization is ready. Kenn ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners