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From: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>
To: "Brandon J. Van Every" <vanevery@indiegamedesign.com>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] suggestion: do not link to www.ocaml.org
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:12:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040414011219.GB919@complete.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OOEALCJCKEBJBIJHCNJDAEOMHAAB.vanevery@indiegamedesign.com>

On Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 04:25:45PM -0700, Brandon J. Van Every wrote:
> reasons.  A number of other languages have the features, and some have
> much better libraries, packages, and industrial provenness.  What OCaml
> apparently has is performance.

That's interesting but not the reason that I was attracted to it.

> The only thing I intensely dislike about the www.ocaml.org website is
> the slogan, "The programming tool of choice for discriminating hackers."
> This suggests that OCaml is a toy, used by exploratory geeks who don't
> know the value of a dollar.  I prefer INRIA's utter blandness to
> ocaml.org's championing of the hacker geek ethic.

No, it suggests that OCaml is a real language that can be used to solve
real problems quickly, that it is not a "toy" language like BASIC, and
that it has some power wrt system-level programming.  Most of this is
true, though it is rather weak on the system-level programming side.

Both sites are functional.  The Humps at ocaml.org are quite valuable.
INRIA's page loads fast and I find what I want fast.  I fail to see any
problem there.

> Don't get me started on the Python Software Foundation's utter inability
> to market anything.

Why should they?  They're not a .com.  Python is doing quite well, I'd
say.

-- John

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-14  1:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-13 22:27 Henri DF
2004-04-13 22:43 ` [Caml-list] " Alan Post
2004-04-13 23:01   ` Henri DF
2004-04-13 23:29     ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-04-13 22:58 ` [Caml-list] " Zed A. Shaw
2004-04-13 23:25   ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-04-14  1:12     ` John Goerzen [this message]
2004-04-14  4:32       ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-04-14 15:14         ` John Goerzen
2004-04-14 16:28           ` Matt Gushee
2004-04-14 18:16           ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-04-14 18:36             ` John Goerzen
2004-04-14  5:34     ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-14  6:26       ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-04-14  6:32         ` Kenneth Knowles
     [not found]           ` <20040414070841.GA6062@roke.freak>
2004-04-14  7:32             ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-14 11:12       ` skaller
2004-04-14 16:01         ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-15  0:32           ` skaller
2004-04-15  5:37             ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-13 23:38   ` Karl Zilles
2004-04-13 23:00 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-04-14 15:17   ` Richard Jones
2004-04-14 19:05   ` Xavier Leroy

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