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From: John Carr <jfc@mit.edu>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] 32 bit floats, SSE instructions
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:03:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200406092003.i59K33q8024571@psi-phi.mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jun 2004 11:52:23 PDT." <20040609185223.GA4330@tallman.kefka.frap.net>


> I'll add my vote; I find Xavier's occasional comments to be the
> highlight of the mailing list.

I think it's clear where he was headed: a general purpose 32 bit float
type with 32 bit floating point arithmetic is not sufficiently useful
to justify the implementation effort.  As a general rule, on modern
processors operations on 32 bit floats are not faster than operations
on 64 bit floats.  32 bit float scalars do not save much space.

32 bit floats would be useful for three reasons:

1. If vector operations could be done on 32 but not 64 bit
quantities.  Scalar is about the same speed.  SSE could be
helpful but I think you would need significant work in the
code generator.

2. To save space in large data structures.  Bigarray is already
available for this purpose.

3. To save space when many medium-size structures are allocated.
A float32 record/array type would be helpful.

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-09 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-08 17:15 Jon Harrop
2004-06-08 19:59 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09  3:15   ` skaller
2004-06-09  4:08   ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-09  6:33     ` skaller
2004-06-09  9:12     ` [Caml-list] popular for being popular Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09 16:18       ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-09 19:08         ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09 16:26 ` [Caml-list] 32 bit floats, SSE instructions Xavier Leroy
2004-06-09 17:58   ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-06-09 18:15     ` Daniel Ortmann
2004-06-09 18:52       ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-06-09 20:03         ` John Carr [this message]
2004-06-09 19:54   ` Brandon J. Van Every
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-08  8:10 Ennals, Robert
2004-06-08 11:17 ` skaller
2004-06-08 17:42 ` John Carr
2004-06-09 16:13 ` Xavier Leroy
2004-06-07 11:13 Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-07 11:32 ` Christophe TROESTLER
     [not found]   ` <20040607131717.GA12136@gaia.cc.gatech.edu>
2004-06-07 16:53     ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-06-07 19:30       ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-07 20:39         ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-06-08  5:42           ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-08 16:54             ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-08 20:50               ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09  3:19                 ` skaller
2004-06-08 14:23           ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-06-10 14:43             ` David Brown
2004-06-10 15:20               ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-06-10 15:57                 ` skaller
2004-06-10 16:23                   ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-06-10 16:47                     ` skaller
2004-06-10 19:46                     ` Evan Martin
2004-06-07 21:00         ` Richard Jones
2004-06-07 21:42           ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-09 15:55           ` Richard Jones
2004-06-07 22:48         ` Chris Clearwater
2004-06-07 17:01 ` brogoff
2004-06-08  1:50 ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-08  5:27   ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-08 15:05     ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-08 16:50       ` art yerkes
2004-06-08 17:10     ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-08 19:24       ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09  0:25         ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-09  1:33           ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09  3:04             ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-09  3:27           ` skaller
2004-06-09 14:21             ` Christophe TROESTLER

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