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From: David Brown <caml-list@davidb.org>
To: Keith Wansbrough <Keith.Wansbrough@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Cc: Nicolas Cannasse <warplayer@free.fr>,
	"Brandon J. Van Every" <vanevery@indiegamedesign.com>,
	caml <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] 32 bit floats, SSE instructions
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 07:43:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040610144354.GA11353@davidb.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1BXhVa-0001z3-00@mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk>

On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 03:23:21PM +0100, Keith Wansbrough wrote:

> Oh, come on.  GHC has no problems with garbage-collecting floats in
> the heap.  It also has no problems unboxing them, and does a
> reasonable job (IIRC) of storing them in registers, just as in C.
> Haskell has both Float (32 bit) and Double (64 bit).  Just because
> OCaml doesn't handle them, doesn't mean no high-level programming
> language can.

GHC's execution model is also slower than ocaml's, and I'm not just
referring to the lazy evaluation aspect.  31-bit tagged integers in
ocaml is a great tradeoff for many applications.  It allows the GC to be
exact, but the compiler doesn't need to explicitly register all
variables at every stack frame.  Unfortunately, it forces 32-bit
quantities to be boxed.

GHC is also much easier to bind with C, both because of how FFI is done,
and that 32-bit values are actually 32-bit values.

BTW, GHC boxes almost everything, and leaves selective unboxing to the
optimizer.

Dave

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-10 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-07 11:13 Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-07 11:32 ` Christophe TROESTLER
     [not found]   ` <20040607131717.GA12136@gaia.cc.gatech.edu>
2004-06-07 16:53     ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-06-07 19:30       ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-07 20:39         ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-06-08  5:42           ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-08 16:54             ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-08 20:50               ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09  3:19                 ` skaller
2004-06-08 14:23           ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-06-10 14:43             ` David Brown [this message]
2004-06-10 15:20               ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-06-10 15:57                 ` skaller
2004-06-10 16:23                   ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-06-10 16:47                     ` skaller
2004-06-10 19:46                     ` Evan Martin
2004-06-07 21:00         ` Richard Jones
2004-06-07 21:42           ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-09 15:55           ` Richard Jones
2004-06-07 22:48         ` Chris Clearwater
2004-06-07 17:01 ` brogoff
2004-06-08  1:50 ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-08  5:27   ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-08 15:05     ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-08 16:50       ` art yerkes
2004-06-08 17:10     ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-08 19:24       ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09  0:25         ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-09  1:28           ` [Caml-list] 3D graphics debate Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09  2:40             ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-09  8:09               ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09  1:33           ` [Caml-list] 32 bit floats, SSE instructions Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09  3:04             ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-09  8:33               ` [Caml-list] The multiresolution business model Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09  3:27           ` [Caml-list] 32 bit floats, SSE instructions skaller
2004-06-09 14:21             ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-06-09  2:57         ` [Caml-list] RE: 3D Rendering pipeline Brian Hurt
2004-06-10 17:55           ` [Caml-list] Re: [Ocaml-lib-devel] " Nicolas Cannasse
2004-06-08  8:10 [Caml-list] 32 bit floats, SSE instructions Ennals, Robert
2004-06-08 11:17 ` skaller
2004-06-08 17:42 ` John Carr
2004-06-09 16:13 ` Xavier Leroy
2004-06-08 17:15 Jon Harrop
2004-06-08 19:59 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09  3:15   ` skaller
2004-06-09  4:08   ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-09  6:33     ` skaller
2004-06-09 16:26 ` Xavier Leroy
2004-06-09 17:58   ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-06-09 18:15     ` Daniel Ortmann
2004-06-09 18:52       ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-06-09 20:03         ` John Carr
2004-06-09 19:54   ` Brandon J. Van Every

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