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From: Markus Mottl <markus@oefai.at>
To: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
Cc: Jean-Marie Gaillourdert <jmg@gaillourdet.net>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] const equivalent for mutable types?
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 17:51:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040731155135.GA15775@fichte.ai.univie.ac.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0407310913240.6739-100000@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Brian Hurt wrote:
> The problem is that if the called function *can* modify the argument, 
> there is an extra, uncheckable, dependency between the caller and called 
> functions.  The depedency can work in both ways- with the caller depending 
> on the called function changing the argument in some known way, or with 
> the caller depending upon the called function not changing the argument.  
> If you violate these constraints, you can easily wind up with a bug.

Sure.  That's also why I think that using non-mutable datastructures
should always be preferred.

> Another thing to note: const in C/C++ isn't.  I can always type cast
> around the const and modify the memory anyways.  Even ignoring wild
> pointers.

Well, you can also always use Obj.magic in OCaml (newbies beware:
DON'T!)... ;-)

> Worrying about how long it takes to allocate a new structure is being
> pennywise and pound foolish- and committing premature optimization.  

I wasn't referring to optimization, this is a different topic.
But there may also be semantic issues.  E.g. you may not want to lose
the possibility of using physical identity (==) on structures.

Regards,
Markus

-- 
Markus Mottl          http://www.oefai.at/~markus          markus@oefai.at

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-31 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-31  8:56 Christopher A. Gorski
2004-07-31  9:24 ` Jean-Marie Gaillourdert
2004-07-31 10:24   ` Jean-Marie Gaillourdert
2004-07-31 10:50   ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-31 14:31     ` Brian Hurt
2004-07-31 15:51       ` Markus Mottl [this message]
2004-07-31 17:05       ` skaller
2004-07-31 10:34 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-31 13:44   ` Jon Harrop
2004-07-31 16:31     ` [Caml-list] Phantom types Markus Mottl
2004-08-23  9:49       ` Jon Harrop
2004-08-23 12:25         ` [Caml-list] Why does ocaml use custom buffering? Daan Leijen
2004-08-23 15:16         ` [Caml-list] Phantom types Jon Harrop
2004-08-27  9:03           ` Jacques GARRIGUE
2004-08-25 21:03         ` brogoff
2004-07-31 16:35     ` [Caml-list] const equivalent for mutable types? skaller
2004-07-31 17:23       ` [Caml-list] Functional arrays Jon Harrop
2004-07-31 18:45         ` skaller
2004-08-02  5:07           ` brogoff
2004-08-02  7:45         ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2004-08-05 16:42           ` Daniel Ortmann
2004-08-05 17:02             ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2004-08-05 17:16             ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2004-07-31 17:45   ` [Caml-list] const equivalent for mutable types? Chris Gorski
2004-07-31 14:11 ` Brian Hurt

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