From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id JAA17117; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:43:37 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA17287 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:43:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mwinf0212.wanadoo.fr (smtp2.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.29]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7C7hZRM021522 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:43:35 +0200 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0212.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 99B0518000AE; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:43:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pegasos (AStrasbourg-251-1-7-61.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.126.197.61]) by mwinf0212.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 59C19180008F; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:43:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from luther by pegasos with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BvALo-00047Z-CF; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:50:16 +0200 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:50:15 +0200 To: "Brandon J. Van Every" Cc: caml Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Who controls INRIA mailserv filters? Message-ID: <20040812075015.GA15804@pegasos> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20040811142549.01d03f38@mail.web-ster.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i From: Sven Luther X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 411B1FA7.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 sven:01 luther:01 sven:01 luther:01 2004:99 brandon:99 brandon:99 spelled:99 agr:99 followup:01 posts:01 posts:01 caml-list:01 spelled:99 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 12:36:02AM -0700, Brandon J. Van Every wrote: > don groves wrote: > > At 14:22 8/11/2004, don groves wrote: > > >At 13:29 8/11/2004, Brandon J. Van Every wrote: > > > > > >Maybe if you spelled S*attle correctly the filter would pass it. > > >Most, if not all, words with embedded non-alpha characters these > > >days are ads for V!agr@ or C!@lis so the filter gets trained > > on those. > > > > Nope, that's not it ;) > > I am unsure of your antecedant, so I'm unsure what you mean by your > followup. > > If you look at the X-Sp*m header of your 2 posts, you will see a list of > words. Those with high values like 99's increase the likelihood that > your post will be classified as sp*m. That is why I use an asterisk > with them. The problem words in your own posts are: > > brand*n > spell*d > s*attle > agggggr (only 1 g, probably part of vairga (letters transposed to > protect us all)) > addddds (only 1 d) > traff*c > > Bear in mind that each and every one of my posts carries an automatic > strike against me. Even though I'm willing to use Brand*n in my > signature, I'm totally unwilling to create a separate e-mail identity > just for caml-list. So every one of my posts has 1 correctly spelled > occurrance of Brand*n in it. > > I bet, furthermore, that you will not see the word S*attle (correctly > spelled) in the X-sp*m header of this post. This would disprove your > claim about * being a red flag for the filter, unless the filter does > not in fact report full information about how it makes its decisions. Bah, just do as spammers do, and quote a considerable portion of one of Xavier's posts to this list as a signature. Works like a charm for spammers to defeat bayesian filters, so should be ok for you too. Friendly, Sven Luther ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners