caml-list - the Caml user's mailing list
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>
To: skaller@users.sourceforge.net
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Alternative Bytecodes for OCaml
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:35:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200408251035.47287.jgoerzen@complete.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1093446345.15255.565.camel@pelican.wigram>

On Wednesday 25 August 2004 10:05 am, skaller wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 00:26, John Goerzen wrote:
> > I come to OCaml from a Python background, and one of the most
> > interesting bits of technology for Python is Jython[1].
>
> Curious though why you'd want to... interfacing to C
> I can understand. But why bother with the JVM or Java?

Because you need to do *NOTHING* to get access to Java classes.  The 
Java type system is rich/strict enough (depending on your perspective) 
to be usable directly from Python, with no glue whatsoever.

Also because there are some interesting Java libraries that do not exist 
for C, or are not as easily usable.  JDBC is a common one.

And because Python is cross-platform, Java is, but compiled C is not.  A 
Jython program still can "run anywhere".

Example:

$ jython
Jython 2.1 on java1.4.1 (JIT: null)
Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import java.lang.System
>>> p = java.lang.System.getProperties()
>>> for key in p.keySet().toArray():
...    print "%-30s: %s" % (key, java.lang.System.getProperty(key))
...
java.runtime.name             : Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard 
Edition
python.cachedir               : /home/jgoerzen/.jython-cache
sun.boot.library.path         : /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/lib/i386
java.vm.version               : Blackdown-1.4.1-beta
java.vm.vendor                : Blackdown Java-Linux Team
java.vendor.url               : http://www.blackdown.org/
path.separator                : :
java.vm.name                  : Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM

etc.

I wrote no glue code for this.  It just worked.  And that is the case 
with almost all Java APIs and libraries.  Jython can be used, in fact, 
as an interactive Java environment.

-- John

-------------------
To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr
Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/
Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-25 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-25 14:26 John Goerzen
2004-08-25 14:38 ` Richard Jones
2004-08-25 14:50   ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 15:02     ` John Goerzen
2004-08-26  9:05       ` Raphael Montelatici
2004-08-26 13:20         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-26 13:30           ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 14:55   ` Lars Nilsson
2004-08-25 15:06     ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 16:14       ` John Goerzen
2004-08-28  3:49     ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 15:05 ` skaller
2004-08-25 15:21   ` Lars Nilsson
2004-08-25 15:22   ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 15:52     ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 16:26       ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 16:40         ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 16:49       ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-08-25 17:01         ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 17:17         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 20:00       ` skaller
2004-08-25 15:23   ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-25 15:24     ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-08-27 14:26     ` Daniel Ortmann
2004-08-27 14:44       ` skaller
2004-08-27 14:59       ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-25 15:35   ` John Goerzen [this message]
2004-08-25 16:00   ` Richard Jones
2004-08-25 15:40 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-27 17:55   ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 18:37     ` skaller
2004-08-27 18:49       ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 20:39         ` skaller
2004-08-27 20:56           ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 22:05             ` Richard Jones
2004-08-27 23:15               ` John Goerzen
2004-08-31 11:10                 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-08-28  0:25             ` skaller
2004-08-28  9:35               ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-28  9:50                 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-28 10:41                   ` skaller
2004-08-28 11:37                     ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-25 17:37 ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-25 18:00   ` Richard Jones
2004-08-25 22:10 ` Yamagata Yoriyuki
2004-08-26  0:09   ` John Goerzen
2004-08-26  4:26     ` [Caml-list] bytecode and native code at once Brandon J. Van Every
2004-08-26  9:55       ` skaller
2004-08-26 15:52         ` [Caml-list] " mikel
2004-08-26 17:09           ` Paul Snively
2004-08-26 17:31             ` mikel evins
2004-08-26 18:04               ` Paul Snively
2004-08-26 18:28                 ` mikel evins
2004-08-26 21:15             ` skaller
2004-08-27  8:52           ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-08-27 15:39             ` David Brown
2004-08-27 15:48               ` mikel evins
2004-08-26 21:42     ` [Caml-list] Alternative Bytecodes for OCaml Michal Moskal
2004-08-27  9:38       ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-27 13:09         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 13:44           ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-27 13:58           ` skaller
2004-08-27 20:48           ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-27 21:03             ` Benjamin Geer
2004-08-30 16:40             ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 19:49         ` Blair Zajac
2004-08-27 22:18           ` Richard Jones
2004-08-27 23:38             ` Yamagata Yoriyuki
2004-08-28 16:40               ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-28 17:03                 ` [Caml-list] (GC issues) " Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-28 20:45                   ` [Caml-list] " Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-29  2:31                     ` skaller
2004-08-29  5:04                       ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-08-29 12:58                         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-29 15:06                           ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-29 15:22                             ` Radu-Mihail Obada
2004-08-29 10:12                     ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-30 12:23                       ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-30 13:17                         ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-26 16:04 ` [Caml-list] " =?unknown-8bit?Q?=A3ukasz?= Dobrek

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=200408251035.47287.jgoerzen@complete.org \
    --to=jgoerzen@complete.org \
    --cc=caml-list@inria.fr \
    --cc=skaller@users.sourceforge.net \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).