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From: Richard Jones <rich@annexia.org>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Alternative Bytecodes for OCaml
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:00:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040825180047.GA19095@annexia.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040825173744.GA11806@bourg.inria.fr>

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On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 07:37:45PM +0200, Basile Starynkevitch [local] wrote:
> The substantial differences in the GC, and the lack of closure &
> tailcall support in JVM is a well known barrier against using the JVM
> for functional language implementations. In other words, even if some
> Java enthusiasts tell otherwise, the JVM is not the universal UNCOL of
> our time!

It's not really an issue of speed.  It's got a lot more to do with
compatibility.  For example, an implementation like Nicolas Cannasse's
which would allow you to run the Java bytecode in a "sandbox JVM",
while keeping the main OCaml code as OCaml bytecode or native code,
would be entirely acceptable for me.

Perl4caml works very similarly to this.  Even if your OCaml code is
native, when you call out to Perl, it runs in the Perl interpreter
(in-process).  This is sufficient to provide access to the Perl
libraries.  It's not particularly fast, but you only suffer a penalty
for the small portion of the program where you call out to Perl, and
the main thing is programmer productivity anyhow.

Rich.

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-25 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-25 14:26 John Goerzen
2004-08-25 14:38 ` Richard Jones
2004-08-25 14:50   ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 15:02     ` John Goerzen
2004-08-26  9:05       ` Raphael Montelatici
2004-08-26 13:20         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-26 13:30           ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 14:55   ` Lars Nilsson
2004-08-25 15:06     ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 16:14       ` John Goerzen
2004-08-28  3:49     ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 15:05 ` skaller
2004-08-25 15:21   ` Lars Nilsson
2004-08-25 15:22   ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 15:52     ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 16:26       ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 16:40         ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 16:49       ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-08-25 17:01         ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 17:17         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 20:00       ` skaller
2004-08-25 15:23   ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-25 15:24     ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-08-27 14:26     ` Daniel Ortmann
2004-08-27 14:44       ` skaller
2004-08-27 14:59       ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-25 15:35   ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 16:00   ` Richard Jones
2004-08-25 15:40 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-27 17:55   ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 18:37     ` skaller
2004-08-27 18:49       ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 20:39         ` skaller
2004-08-27 20:56           ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 22:05             ` Richard Jones
2004-08-27 23:15               ` John Goerzen
2004-08-31 11:10                 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-08-28  0:25             ` skaller
2004-08-28  9:35               ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-28  9:50                 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-28 10:41                   ` skaller
2004-08-28 11:37                     ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-25 17:37 ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-25 18:00   ` Richard Jones [this message]
2004-08-25 22:10 ` Yamagata Yoriyuki
2004-08-26  0:09   ` John Goerzen
2004-08-26  4:26     ` [Caml-list] bytecode and native code at once Brandon J. Van Every
2004-08-26  9:55       ` skaller
2004-08-26 15:52         ` [Caml-list] " mikel
2004-08-26 17:09           ` Paul Snively
2004-08-26 17:31             ` mikel evins
2004-08-26 18:04               ` Paul Snively
2004-08-26 18:28                 ` mikel evins
2004-08-26 21:15             ` skaller
2004-08-27  8:52           ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-08-27 15:39             ` David Brown
2004-08-27 15:48               ` mikel evins
2004-08-26 21:42     ` [Caml-list] Alternative Bytecodes for OCaml Michal Moskal
2004-08-27  9:38       ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-27 13:09         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 13:44           ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-27 13:58           ` skaller
2004-08-27 20:48           ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-27 21:03             ` Benjamin Geer
2004-08-30 16:40             ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 19:49         ` Blair Zajac
2004-08-27 22:18           ` Richard Jones
2004-08-27 23:38             ` Yamagata Yoriyuki
2004-08-28 16:40               ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-28 17:03                 ` [Caml-list] (GC issues) " Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-28 20:45                   ` [Caml-list] " Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-29  2:31                     ` skaller
2004-08-29  5:04                       ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-08-29 12:58                         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-29 15:06                           ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-29 15:22                             ` Radu-Mihail Obada
2004-08-29 10:12                     ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-30 12:23                       ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-30 13:17                         ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-26 16:04 ` [Caml-list] " =?unknown-8bit?Q?=A3ukasz?= Dobrek

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