From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id PAA11997; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:29:35 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12157 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:29:33 +0200 (MET DST) X-SPAM-Warning: Sending machine is listed in blackholes.five-ten-sg.com Received: from gatekeeper.elmer.external.excelhustler.com (gatekeeper.excelhustler.com [68.99.114.105]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i7VDTVTp021530 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:29:33 +0200 Received: from chatterbox.elmer.internal.excelhustler.com (unknown [192.168.0.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client CN "chatterbox.elmer.internal.excelhustler.com", Issuer "excelhustler.com" (not verified)) by gatekeeper.elmer.external.excelhustler.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D42DD8076; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:29:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chatterbox.elmer.internal.excelhustler.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4FFD8075; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:29:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from chatterbox.elmer.internal.excelhustler.com ([192.168.0.12]) by localhost (chatterbox [192.168.0.12]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with ESMTP id 32323-09; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:29:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wile.internal.excelhustler.com (wile.internal.excelhustler.com [192.168.1.34]) by chatterbox.elmer.internal.excelhustler.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEBB99F4E; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:29:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: by wile.internal.excelhustler.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 69DFD3D04F; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:29:28 -0500 (CDT) From: John Goerzen To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Cross-compiling OCaml Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:29:27 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 Cc: "Brandon J. Van Every" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200408310829.28253.jgoerzen@complete.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at excelhustler.com X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 41347D3B.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.01; caml-list:01 2004:99 brandon:99 sven:01 luther:01 retail:99 cd-r:99 mingw:01 inclined:01 complained:01 python:01 quux:01 bono:99 contractor:99 legs:99 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Tuesday 31 August 2004 01:50 am, Brandon J. Van Every wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > This would indeed be a great great additional functionality. > > Well, speaking as a Windows-centric guy, I'd rather people just put > their time into good Windows support. I realize that the Linux / As you've obviously noticed from the responses to the post, nobody here seems to want to ever touch Windows if they can possibly avoid it. And I don't blame them. The whole platform is a mess, and programming there is even more of a mess, and if you do it the "normal" way, it's also incredibly expensive: Windows XP Pro Retail $194 (newegg.com) Visual Studio $1645 (buy.com) ------------------------------------- ------------------ Total cost $1839 1 CD-R to burn a Debian ISO $0.30 or less Why should I pay so much for the privilege of developing on a platform I hate? > mingw crowd isn't so inclined towards that. I'm just saying that > mainstream Windows developers don't see cross-compilation from Linux > as valuable. First class native Windows support is what counts. Well then, show me the code. I am tired of you complaining about this or that feature that nobody wants, demanding people write it because the gaming marketplace wants it, and doing nothing at all to address it. This is not the only place you've been doing that. Now, I have complained here on several occasions about the size of the standard OCaml library compared to that of, say, Python. But I'm doing something about it. (http://quux.org/devel/missinglib) This list is not your pro bono private contractor. Everybody here is working on/with OCaml because either 1) they are getting paid to do so, or 2) they want to do so. I seriously doubt that anybody here wants to work with Windows. So unless you come up with some cash or code, shut up already. > N.B. I'm not Windows-centric out of any love for Windows or > Microsoft. Rather, I'm a game developer. To make money commercially, > that's the platform I'm stuck with. For computer games, Mac barely > has the legs to bother with, and Linux certainly doesn't. OK then. How about porting whatever it is in OCaml that doesn't work on Windows? Go ahead. I'm sure if you do a good job of it, people will be happy to take your patches. > Cheers, www.indiegamedesign.com And oh yes, that 30-line signature really improved the quality of your post... -- John Goerzen Author, Foundations of Python Network Programming http://www.complete.org/pynet ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners