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From: "Basile Starynkevitch [local]" <basile.starynkevitch@inria.fr>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Gripes with array
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 18:07:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040912160711.GA1292@bourg.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200409121633.38389.jon@jdh30.plus.com>

On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 04:33:38PM +0100, Jon Harrop wrote:
> 
> Having said that, it might be possible to abstract the array lookup and 
> replace it with a clever function to work out where the "i"th element really 
> is. Then you could give Array.init a continuation. Hmm...
> 
> > >  Could you add a memset to String.create though? :-)
> >
> > String.make
> 
> I meant for safety reasons - either don't export String.create or make it 
> safe, e.g. "let create n = make n '\000'".
> 
> > > An array_init2 function which specialises the array type but uses an
> > > external
> > > "f" function betters the time taken by Array.init by ~36% (perhaps not
> > > significantly different):
> >
> > That's from getting rid of the float/non-float test.  Nothing to do with
> > the cost of initializing twice.
> 
> Yes. Optimising that would be much more productive. Am I right in thinking 
> that ocamlopt doesn't hoist the test out of the loop?

> Such optimisations would be best done at run-time, e.g. by Basile's
> JIT. Where is he? ;-)

I'm here (not for very long, I'm going back in a few days to CEA
working on other things, probably unrelated to Ocaml).

However, this optimisation is not for OcamlJIT, which is an
unoptimizing JIT. The main requirement of OcamlJIT was full
compatibility with Ocamlrun without touching a single line in the
ocaml/**/*.ml* sources (the ** is zsh notation) of Ocaml (actually, I
had to cheat for the toplevel where I added a single line, now
incorporated in 3.08).

Of course, one could dream of substantially change the bytecode
instruction set (for better JIT translation). But it won't be
compatible with Ocaml.

If you ask me, the one feature I would have liked in the bytecode
instruction set, is to add a LABEL bytecode, followed by a useless
word (used by ocamljit to store a pointer to machine code), and to
change the bytecode generator so that every closure had its code
pointer pointing to this LABEL bytecode.

But the rule of the OcamlJIT game was to leave Ocaml as much as
possible unchanged.

BTW, I would be delighted to have feedback of people using OcamlJit
with Ocaml 3.08.

Regards

-- 
Basile STARYNKEVITCH -- basile dot starynkevitch at inria dot fr
other email : basile at starynkevitch dot net
Project cristal.inria.fr - for a few days
http://cristal.inria.fr/~starynke --- all opinions are only mine 

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-12 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-09  2:10 Jon Harrop
2004-09-09  5:08 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-09-09  7:17 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-09-09  8:23   ` Richard Jones
2004-09-09  9:08     ` Olivier Andrieu
2004-09-09 12:08       ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-09-09 12:31         ` Damien Doligez
2004-09-09 10:42     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-09-09  9:37 ` Damien Doligez
2004-09-09 10:34   ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-09-09 12:15     ` Igor Pechtchanski
2004-09-09 13:01   ` Brian Hurt
2004-09-09 20:08     ` [Caml-list] 32-bit is sticking around Brandon J. Van Every
2004-09-09 21:04       ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-11 15:30         ` Lars Nilsson
2004-09-11 16:24           ` [off topic] " David MENTRE
2004-09-11 17:52             ` Lars Nilsson
     [not found]           ` <200409111656.11952.jon@jdh30.plus.com>
2004-09-11 17:47             ` Lars Nilsson
2004-09-09 16:58   ` [Caml-list] Gripes with array Jon Harrop
2004-09-10  5:56     ` Array.init (was [Caml-list] Gripes with array) Christophe Raffalli
2004-09-10  8:53       ` Richard Jones
2004-09-10 14:50         ` Damien Doligez
2004-09-13  7:02       ` Christophe Raffalli
2004-09-10 13:45     ` [Caml-list] Gripes with array Damien Doligez
2004-09-11  1:43       ` skaller
2004-09-11  3:16         ` skaller
2004-09-11 14:36       ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-11 20:53         ` Damien Doligez
2004-09-12 15:33           ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-12 16:07             ` Basile Starynkevitch [local] [this message]
2004-09-10 23:48 ` brogoff

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