From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97084BB81 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:39:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id iAKMdCU4031632 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:39:12 +0100 Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA32752 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:39:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.35]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with SMTP id iAKMdBUu013732 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:39:11 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.113?) (vincenzo?ml@82.49.164.189 with plain) by smtp004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2004 22:39:11 -0000 From: Vincenzo Ciancia To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: The madness of ignoring people Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:43:22 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <419F92C0.4010200@barettadeit.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411202343.22273.vincenzo_mlRE.MOVE@yahoo.it> X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 419FC790.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 419FC78F.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; malc:01 wrote:01 ocaml:01 alas:01 ocaml:01 compilers:01 gcc:01 non-trivial:01 translated:01 reaction:01 tend:02 gnu:03 inria:05 inria:05 ignoring:05 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: On Saturday 20 November 2004 20:17, malc wrote: > I had hoped that this will > result in some reaction, if not from Inria developers then from OCaml > users, alas this was not the case. I don't understand why academic environments producing free software often tend to deliberately ignore people contributions. Maybe it is normal that your feature has no users (yet), and so there is no people interested, but it's absolutely NOT normal that people at inria just ignore it - just like it's not normal that they sometimes don't answer at all nontrivial technical questions about ocaml that _only them_ can answer. I know, compilers and mailing lists are for free, but there is not a wide support network for ocaml, as there is, for example, for many software projects such as gcc, or the GNU operating system and so on, so the only place where somebody can ask for help about ocaml is here. And to get back on your issue about the patch, I see it's frustrating to be just ignored, and it's a pity to force people, who might have worked hard, and for free, in _their_ free time, to stop contributing, because they get frustrated by being ignored, without at least explaining the reason. I've seen this on other mailing lists in the past, and in case someone is going to ask, no, it's not about contributions I made (there is no such thing :) ) - but of course I asked unanswered non-trivial technical question which I think is the other side of the same coin (wondering if this phrase makes sense in english, translated in italian it does). V.