From: Michael Vanier <mvanier@cs.caltech.edu>
To: michael.walter@gmail.com
Cc: Thomas.Fischbacher@physik.uni-muenchen.de,
dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de, caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] The boon of static type checking
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:46:24 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050214014624.EF42F9BDAB@orchestra.cs.caltech.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877e9a170502131711122bd34e@mail.gmail.com> (message from Michael Walter on Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:11:54 -0500)
> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:11:54 -0500
> From: Michael Walter <michael.walter@gmail.com>
>
> > > Of course, if you decide to use S-expressions primarily as a compiler
> > > target that's an entirely different issue (to bad that this path
> > > hasn't been explored that much, besides maybe Dylan).
> >
> > That's how it's supposed to be.
> But that is not what it *is* like in > 95% of "the Lisp world". See my
> last mail - the typical Lisper seldomly/never "escapes" S expressions,
> and I strongly believe this is not because S expressions are the
> "best" syntax.
>
> Michael
>
[Way off-topic -- sorry!]
But S-expressions are arguably the best syntax for writing macro
expansions. Since an S-expression is trivially parseable and dispatches on
its first symbol it's very easy to write source code transformations in
lisp, and lispers seem to value this much more than aficionados of other
languages. More recent efforts like metaocaml and template Haskell (not to
mention camlp4 and C++ templates) suggest that the notion that source code
transformations can be a useful part of programming is getting more
popular.
Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-14 1:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 169+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-02 21:31 Estimating the size of the ocaml community Yaron Minsky
2005-02-02 21:36 ` [Caml-list] " Christopher A. Watford
2005-02-02 21:54 ` Frédéric Gava
2005-02-03 3:58 ` skaller
2005-02-03 6:35 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2005-02-03 16:29 ` Olivier Pérès
2005-02-03 18:06 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-03 18:34 ` Frédéric Gava
2005-02-03 21:16 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-03 21:58 ` Paul Snively
2005-02-03 22:42 ` Bardur Arantsson
2005-02-03 23:29 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-03 22:33 ` josh
2005-02-03 23:22 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-03 23:39 ` Richard Jones
2005-02-04 9:04 ` Frédéric Gava
2005-02-04 9:37 ` Richard Jones
2005-02-04 10:11 ` Olivier Andrieu
2005-02-04 11:14 ` Frédéric Gava
2005-02-04 12:15 ` Richard Jones
2005-02-04 12:46 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2005-02-04 12:51 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2005-02-04 13:43 ` Richard W. M. Jones
2005-02-04 16:01 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2005-02-04 16:52 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 17:21 ` Frédéric Gava
2005-02-04 17:55 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 16:48 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 12:15 ` Olivier Andrieu
2005-02-04 16:42 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 10:58 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 17:27 ` Damien Doligez
2005-02-04 17:59 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 1:17 ` Michael Walter
2005-02-04 10:53 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 22:01 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-05 12:27 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-06 0:08 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-03 23:29 ` Richard Jones
2005-02-04 2:33 ` Jon Harrop
[not found] ` <877e9a170502031856175260c8@mail.gmail.com>
2005-02-04 2:56 ` Michael Walter
2005-02-04 10:26 ` [Caml-list] The boon of static type checking Jon Harrop
2005-02-04 17:02 ` Damien Doligez
2005-02-04 18:00 ` Jon Harrop
2005-02-04 20:38 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-04 21:42 ` Jon Harrop
2005-02-04 22:11 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-05 0:58 ` Jon Harrop
2005-02-05 1:52 ` Shivkumar Chandrasekaran
2005-02-07 18:47 ` Damien Doligez
2005-02-05 5:24 ` Jacques Garrigue
2005-02-04 21:52 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-04 22:27 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-05 10:00 ` Remi Vanicat
2005-02-06 11:18 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-04 22:55 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-06 0:02 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-06 0:56 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2005-02-06 10:03 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-06 1:34 ` Richard Jones
2005-02-06 2:30 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2005-02-06 9:54 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2005-02-06 10:05 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-05 21:48 ` Michael Walter
2005-02-06 10:22 ` Radu Grigore
2005-02-06 12:16 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2005-02-06 14:59 ` skaller
2005-02-06 22:30 ` Radu Grigore
2005-02-07 3:15 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2005-02-06 17:28 ` Jon
2005-02-06 22:26 ` Radu Grigore
2005-02-07 2:51 ` skaller
2005-02-07 1:54 ` skaller
2005-02-07 5:34 ` Brian Hurt
2005-02-07 6:16 ` Michael Walter
2005-02-07 14:58 ` Igor Pechtchanski
2005-02-12 15:22 ` Brian Hurt
2005-02-12 16:11 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-12 18:47 ` Brian Hurt
2005-02-12 21:58 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-12 17:06 ` skaller
2005-02-12 22:57 ` Michael Walter
2005-02-13 1:12 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-13 1:51 ` Tony Edgin
2005-02-13 2:12 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-13 10:26 ` Daniel Heck
2005-02-13 18:28 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-13 20:52 ` Michael Walter
2005-02-13 21:42 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-13 22:51 ` Michael Walter
2005-02-13 23:59 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-14 0:11 ` Michael Walter
2005-02-14 0:42 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-14 1:11 ` Michael Walter
2005-02-14 1:46 ` Michael Vanier [this message]
2005-02-14 1:57 ` Michael Walter
2005-02-14 14:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-14 14:36 ` [Caml-list] " Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-14 1:19 ` [Caml-list] " Michael Walter
2005-02-14 17:29 ` Martin Berger
2005-02-14 18:44 ` skaller
2005-02-14 19:17 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-14 2:22 ` skaller
2005-02-14 8:04 ` Paul Snively
2005-02-14 9:33 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-14 9:39 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-14 2:10 ` skaller
2005-02-13 2:27 ` Brian Hurt
2005-02-13 2:34 ` Michael Walter
2005-02-07 10:57 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2005-02-07 16:58 ` skaller
2005-02-07 17:24 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2005-02-07 17:56 ` Paul Snively
2005-02-07 17:59 ` skaller
2005-02-07 17:30 ` skaller
2005-02-07 13:07 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2005-02-12 15:42 ` Brian Hurt
2005-02-07 17:42 ` Ken Rose
2005-02-07 2:23 ` skaller
2005-02-04 9:29 ` [Caml-list] Estimating the size of the ocaml community Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-04 10:26 ` Andreas Rossberg
2005-02-04 17:54 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-04 15:43 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 19:54 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-04 20:20 ` Karl Zilles
2005-02-04 22:07 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-04 9:41 ` Richard Jones
2005-02-04 10:03 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-04 16:00 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 17:32 ` sejourne_kevin
2005-02-04 18:46 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-05 1:49 ` skaller
2005-02-04 8:55 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2005-02-04 9:36 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-04 10:30 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 22:02 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-05 13:14 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-05 16:37 ` Why can't types and exceptions be nested (was: Re: [Caml-list] Estimating the size of the ocaml community) Richard Jones
2005-02-05 17:04 ` Basile STARYNKEVITCH
2005-02-05 19:26 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-06 2:56 ` skaller
2005-02-04 21:55 ` [Caml-list] Estimating the size of the ocaml community Basile STARYNKEVITCH
2005-02-03 19:04 ` ronniec95
2005-02-03 20:06 ` skaller
2005-02-03 20:50 ` chris.danx
2005-02-03 21:14 ` Jon Harrop
2005-02-03 21:34 ` chris.danx
2005-02-03 22:07 ` Bardur Arantsson
2005-02-03 21:47 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2005-02-04 3:52 ` skaller
2005-02-04 16:12 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-05 2:04 ` skaller
2005-02-03 20:35 ` chris.danx
2005-02-03 8:36 ` sejourne_kevin
2005-02-03 8:39 ` Matthieu Brucher
2005-02-03 16:23 ` Olivier Pérès
2005-02-03 10:10 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2005-02-03 16:44 ` Vincenzo Ciancia
2005-02-02 22:10 ` [Caml-list] " Kenneth Knowles
2005-02-02 22:40 ` Michael Jeffrey Tucker
2005-02-02 22:52 ` Richard Jones
2005-02-02 23:42 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2005-02-03 6:53 ` Evan Martin
2005-02-03 6:57 ` Eric Stokes
2005-02-03 20:53 ` chris.danx
2005-02-03 23:29 ` Sylvain LE GALL
2005-02-03 23:38 ` sejourne_kevin
2005-02-07 8:49 ` Sven Luther
2005-02-07 9:23 ` Johann Spies
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