From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF20BC75 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:19:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j1N7JPgq008626 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:19:25 +0100 Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18874 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:19:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from first.in-berlin.de (dialin-145-254-062-203.arcor-ip.net [145.254.62.203]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j1N7JNKK024263 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:19:24 +0100 Received: by first.in-berlin.de (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1E76EAF0E9; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:59:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:59:13 +0100 From: Oliver Bandel To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Cross-platform "Hello, World" graphical application in OCaml Message-ID: <20050222235913.GB429@first.in-berlin.de> References: <20050222120308.GA2975@furbychan.cocan.org> <421B6675.20109@orcaware.com> <20050222172340.GA2557@furbychan.cocan.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050222172340.GA2557@furbychan.cocan.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 421C2E7D.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 421C2E7B.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; oliver:01 bandel:01 oliver:01 in-berlin:01 caml-list:01 ocaml:01 wrote:01 zajac:01 wrote:01 lablgtk:01 gtk:01 guis:01 high-level:01 guis:01 apis:01 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12, FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 05:23:41PM +0000, Richard Jones wrote: > On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 09:05:57AM -0800, Blair Zajac wrote: > > What would it take to have a native Mac OS X interface that doesn't use X11? > > The code uses lablgtk2 for the interface. If you look in the source ...well, I did not try to install gtk-stuff on Mac OS-X. But even if I had do this... the question was, if there is a native OS-X interface *without X11*, and gtk uses X11. So this is not the direction to go... Ciao, Oliver P.S.: Any of these windowing stuff/GUIs needs windows and point/pixels, dialogs, colors, buttons, text, graphics,... ... and even if they are all distinct, they are also common. ... it may be necessary to provide a High-Level GUI-language/DSL to create GUIs. When using HTML for describing web-layout, this Weblanguage/DSL called HTML does not make any assumptions about implementation of webbrowsers or programming APIs. Maybe it is necessary to provide a high level language similar to HTML, but intended for creating GUIs in compiled programs. Or maybe it even makes sense to use HTML (or a subset) (or a superset (?!) (xml?)) to create native GUIs (e.g. with code generators).