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From: Bardur Arantsson <list-caml-list@scientician.net>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Cross-platform "Hello, World" graphical application in OCaml
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:29:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050223072916.GB20055@scientician.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200502230005.01479.jon@jdh30.plus.com>

On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:05:01AM +0000, Jon Harrop wrote:

> On Tuesday 22 February 2005 23:30, Daniel Bünzli wrote:
> > One nice thing to have would be a pure ocaml gui system (maybe along
> > the lines of Fruit [1] or Fudgets) with a functorized renderer
> > interface so that it can be used with/rendered by different graphic api
> > (e.g. see cegui [3,4]) or even inside a canvas widget. Input handling
> > should also be functorized so that it is easy to plug the gui system in
> > a particular environment.

> I prefer the idea of implementing a single back-end: a decent vector graphics 
> renderer which uses OpenGL. I can't think of any reason I'd ditch these for 
> another back-end.

On Linux, only Radeon and NVidia cards have even half-way decent OpenGL
support -- and even then you need proprietary drivers for the most recent
ones. I probably don't need to tell you that rendering OpenGL to a
framebuffer via software on a general-purpose CPU (ie. software
rendering) is spectacularly slow. Certainly slow enough to make a GUI
completely unusable.

[--snip--]
> The editors I've seen under Linux are making tentative steps in the right 
> direction but they are still miles away from what could be achieved. 
> OCamlbrowser displays hierarchical lists of module contents graphically. 
> KEdit lets you flatten C++ function definitions, but C++ lacks nested 
> functions. Particularly in OCaml, programming could be so much easier with 
> more sophisticated editors...

Maybe you should try Eclipse and the OCaml-plugins:

- http://www.eclipse.org/
- http://eclipsefp.sourceforge.net/ocaml/

Now, I haven't tested the OCaml/C++ support, so I don't know how good
that is, but the Java support in Eclipse is incredible.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-02-23  7:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-22 12:03 Richard Jones
2005-02-22 12:15 ` [Caml-list] " Sven Luther
2005-02-22 12:28   ` Richard Jones
2005-02-22 12:35     ` Sven Luther
2005-02-22 12:53       ` Richard Jones
2005-02-22 14:27         ` Sven Luther
2005-02-22 13:36 ` Vincenzo Ciancia
2005-02-22 14:03   ` [Caml-list] " Richard Jones
2005-02-22 17:46     ` Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-22 23:50       ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-23 13:58         ` Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-23  8:15       ` Sven Luther
2005-02-23 14:08         ` Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-23 16:15           ` Sven Luther
2005-02-24 16:20             ` Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-23  8:07     ` Evan Martin
2005-02-22 14:08   ` Michael Walter
2005-02-22 17:05 ` [Caml-list] " Blair Zajac
2005-02-22 17:23   ` Richard Jones
2005-02-22 19:24     ` Jon Harrop
2005-02-22 20:24       ` Richard Jones
2005-02-22 21:23         ` Jon Harrop
2005-02-22 22:13           ` chris.danx
2005-02-22 23:00             ` Jon Harrop
2005-02-23  0:18               ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-23 17:24               ` Christopher Campbell
2005-02-22 23:38           ` Richard Jones
2005-02-22 21:26         ` chris.danx
2005-02-22 22:16           ` Jon Harrop
2005-02-22 23:30             ` Daniel Bünzli
2005-02-23  0:05               ` Jon Harrop
2005-02-23  3:05                 ` Michael Walter
2005-02-23  3:13                 ` Daniel Bünzli
2005-02-23  3:57                   ` Jon Harrop
2005-02-23  7:29                 ` Bardur Arantsson [this message]
2005-02-23 11:21                   ` Jon Harrop
2005-02-23 11:45                     ` Bardur Arantsson
2005-02-23  0:27               ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-22 20:57       ` chris.danx
2005-02-23  9:58         ` Olivier Andrieu
2005-02-23 17:23           ` Christopher Campbell
2005-02-23  0:02       ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-23 11:37         ` Jon Harrop
2005-03-01 14:35         ` Ingo Bormuth
2005-02-22 23:59     ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-23 15:21       ` William D. Neumann
2005-02-24  0:44         ` Oliver Bandel
     [not found] <20050223054011.3414.28936.Mailman@yquem.inria.fr>
2005-03-02  6:36 ` Ken Rawlings
2005-03-02  6:56   ` Nicolas Cannasse
2005-03-02 11:40   ` Richard Jones
2005-03-02 12:06     ` Nicolas Cannasse
2005-03-05 12:51     ` Sven Luther
2005-03-05 12:31 Grégory Guyomarc'h
2005-03-05 13:09 Gregory Guyomarc'h

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